Is COach LEs MIles of LSU a homophobe or bigot?

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    I'm just curious as to the perspective of the regulars here. Would you now refuse to attend LSU or would you support a protest and boycott of LSU?

    start at 1:18 for the comment in question



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  2. JavisBeason

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    not concerened in the least.....
     
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    clearly he felt the need to clarify that only a girl should kiss the male players upon the lips.
     
  4. JeffLV

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    I'd boycotte him just because his voice annoys me, but besides that the comment doesn't concern me. The vast majority, if not all, of the men on the team are likely heterosexual and would not appreciate a kiss on the mouth from a man. I'd say the same thing if I were in a room full of hot men and a few women, something along the lines of "Holy crap did christmas come early, look at this eye candy... well except the ladies, sorry, I love you guys too though :)". That's just me stating my preference, not putting down heterosexuality. I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging heterosexuality, it doesn't become rude unless you put down homosexuality.
     
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    thanks for the reply

    this is the same guy who eats a little turf from the fields. You gotta love college football

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    Illustrative of the coach's discomfort with same-sex affection. That's his problem; I can't muster the energy to make it mine.
     
  7. JavisBeason

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    how is it a problem of his at all???? he makes millions and even if he's the biggest hater of homo's on God's green earth.... it's still not "his problem"

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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    I have to laugh. Football may be one of the most homoerotic sports out there. Bunch of big buff guys running around in tight pants, slapping each other on the behind, and reaching up between each others legs to grab a ball.

    ....doesn't get much gayer than that.
     
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    jerry sandusky was gay too
     
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    umm, no kidding. Since he is a male and went after young males for sex that would make him gay.
     
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    Sandusky is not gay. He's a pedophile. Educate yourselves.
     
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    lol @ gays trying to conveniently distance themselves from Sandusky.

    he butt-humped little boys in the shower... not little girls, little boys.


    Man on boy loving.... yes pedophilia, but also G.A.Y.
     
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    Seriously .... educate yourself.
     
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    if Sandusky had sex with a GIRL of that age, he'd be a pedo
    if Sandusky had sex with a BOY of that age, he'd be a pedo AND GAY.

    man on boy is gay. I could stretch as far as saying he's BI since he did have a marriage.... but he butt-humped a boy(s)....... gay
     
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    Being sexually attracted to children is a different orientation than being either straight or gay.
     
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    very convienient distancing I see... being sexually attracted to children makes you a pedo, being attracted to the MALE children makes you a gay pedo
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You really do need to educate yourself. If a man is sexually attracted to female children that does not make him a heterosexual pedophile, it just makes him a pedophile, same with the opposite. These people have not developed a sexual interest in adults at all and so their sexual orientation is just pedophilia or ****philia.

    http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
     
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    yes it would make him a heterosexual pedo.... and I beg to differ in his sexual attraction not being on adults.... he had a wife of many years.


    Face it, gays do sick and twisted (*)(*)(*)(*) all the time too. But you are more concerned with the gay agenda not being damaged by a queer banging a boy ina shower.
     
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    If you look at all that and think sex rather than sport, maybe the "issue" is on your side. :p
     
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    pedophilia is a sickness. Nobody is suggesting that all gays are pedophiles so put your claws back in

    There pedophiles who prefer gay pedophilia and pedophiles who prefer hetero pedophilia

    in the case of Sandusky, he liked gay pedophilia. I like ice cream and my preference is coffee flavored. It can be said that I like ice cream and that would be correct but a more factually correct statement would be that i like coffee ice cream. Sandusky likes gay pedophilia
     
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    Behavior and attraction aren't the same thing.

    Getting married is a behavior. Molesting a child is a behavior.

    Heterosexual and homosexual are terms that can describe either behavior or attraction, but only in general terms.

    A pedophile is primarily oriented on qualities associated with pre-pubescence. A hebophile is primarily orientated on qualities associated with early adolescence. An ephebophile is primarily oriented on qualities of late adolescence.

    By way of contrast, a person who is 'gay' or 'straight' is primarily oriented on qualities associated with being male or female, not on qualities associated with a degree of maturation (or lack thereof).

    Child molesters choose their victims based on the child having qualities that fit their orientation (pedophilia, hebophilia, ephebophilia). Those that differentiate between targeting male children versus female children may do so based on factors such as access and opportunity (such as a male sports coach having access primarily to male children or teens) more than on having an attraction toward one sex or the other.

    Moreover, we only know a molester's behavior; we can only guess at their orientation. Guessing that a man who molests male children is "gay" is a poor guess, given what we do know more generally about the connection between age-related orientations like pedophilia and child molestation.

    It would be correct to characterize a molester who targets children of the same sex as 'homosexual' in behavior. It would most likely be incorrect to characterize them as "gay", since gay references a person's orientation/identity, not their behavior.
     
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    So, is Les Miles a bigot or homophobe?

    and thanks for clarifying the subtle difference between the term gay and homosexual

    homosexuals have sex with same sex partners

    gays= whichever way the wind is blowing is how it will be defined
     
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    Tell that to his wife and children.
     
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    You still need to be educated. Homophobia is the result of ignorance.
     
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    Call it what you want, the label you give it simply has to be understood based on the meaning you give it... And in the case of "gay pedophilia" that sandusky committed, the use of the word "gay" by people such as Sec and others simply means sexual actions towards the same sex. That's fine if that's how you define it, although it speaks nothing towards the underlying motivations and etiology. The problem is when people automatically try to somehow trying to ascribe the negative image of gay pedophilia on anyone attracted to the same sex, simply on the basis that they're share the same descriptor, "gay". That interpretation has no bases, but people often like to pretend that it does based simply on the fact that "gay" is used to describe both. Call it what you want, it's an argument over semantics, just don't fall into the trap of the equivocation or composition fallacies when you do so.


    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/composition.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation
    So keep poking those buttons like I know you guys enjoy, it doesn't carry much meaning.
     

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