Is God Responsible For The Evil In The World? No He Is Not.

Yes, and that loss of credibility has left humanity sceptical of absolutely everything.

 

Yet exactly 37 minutes later you post this > > >

When considering the easiest ways to disprove the idiocy of your argument I quickly realized there is little need for any effort because by reading your above two conflicting responses I can simply quote Mike Ehrmantraut’s reply to Trevor Philips, “You can make it not so easy”.

 

To kill 60 million people in one year you have to kill 63 per second 24 hours a day 365 days a year.
Your source is a LIAR, and you know it!

 

Prove it.
You have no proof that Bush contrived a single thing.
You have no powers to see inside Bush's heart and mind.
You merely asserting that "Bush contrived" is not proof that
Bush actually contrived anything.

contrived - "deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously."

You were the one that used the word "contrived."
You are incorrect.
Bush did NOT deliberately create the Iraq war.
Just the opposite.
The Iraq war arose naturally out of the events of 9/11
This is common universal knowledge.
The whole world knows its true.

Prove it.
You cannot prove that the war was unjustified.
You merely assert that it was.
You would have to prove that Saddam did NOT have
weapons of mass destruction. You cannot prove that.
Just because weapons of mass destruction were not
found in Iraq, does not mean that they were not there.
They could have been secretly removed. You do not
know if they were or were not secretly removed.
Nobody knows if Saddam, did or did not, have them.

At the time the vast majority of Americans fully
supported George W. Bush's decision to go to war.
So? So if Bush is a murderer so are the vast majority
of the people of America.

Prove it.
You have no proof that Bush's motive was revenge.
You merely assert.
Revenge is inside the human heart, and you have no powers to
look inside Bush's heart and mind --- so you do NOT abd cannot
possibly know that Bush's motive was revenge.

Your claims have no credibility.
They are mere assertions.
Give me an argument that demonstrates that
George W. Bush Jr. is a murderer.
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What I said is correct:
When anybody post such as this down below, they lose all credibility.
_______________
" George W. Bush Jr. who killed over one million
innocent men, women, and children! Yeah, he is a church-going
Christian and believes in Jesus Christ. Ain't that nice? "___Thingamabob
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What is posted up there is obviously unreasonable, illogical, and
nonsensical. President George W. Bush Jr. is no more a murderer
than any other national leader that made a decision to go to war
in what he thought at the time, was in the nation's best interest.

Its reasonable to disagree with his decision to go to war -- but
its ludicrous to call him a murderer in light of what happened on
9/11

Don't just ignore what I said, and post some mockery and ridicule.
Instead give me a solid argument that clearly demonstrates that
George W. Bush Jr. is a murderer because he made the decision
to go to war in light of 9/11 -- with the support and approval of
the vast majority of Americans at the time.


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False!

 

It was an honest mistake.
I made a typo.
I corrected it below.
I originally incorrectly wrote:
Stalinist Purges 1930 -1930 -- 20 -60 million

The correct stat is:
Stalinist Purges 1930 -1938 -- 20 -60 million

"The Death Toll From Statism: Civilians Killed By Governments - excluding wars

China (communists) 35 million
Germany (total 20th century) 21 million
The Holocaust (1938-1945) 6 million
Soviet Union (total 20th century) 62 million
Stalinist Purges 1930 -1938 -- 20 -60 million
Cambodia (1975-1979) 1 -2 million"

Source: It's getting Better All The Time: 100 Greatest Trends Of The Last 100 Years
by Stephen Moore and Julian Simon
page 16
published by the Cato Institute.
Moore and Simon got the above from Statistics Of Democide by Rudy J. Rummel
as cited in The Economist magazine.

 

It is ridiculous to say that "Nope" is an argument.

 

"I quickly realized there is little need for any effort"___Thingamabob

The reason that you "quickly realized there is little need for any effort"
is because you KNOW that you have no proof that Jake Bird was a
Christian.

In other words you have zero actual arguments.

Instead what you offer is mockery and ridicule
and emoticons. You managed to actually
produce three {3} emoticons in just one short
post.

You offer quotes instead of arguments.

The truth is you have no actual reasoned arguments
instead you have your mere opinions and your mere
assertions.

You said that Jake Bird was a Christian. You have zero
proof that he was a Christian.

Give me just one {1} credible piece of evidence that
Jake Bird was a Christian. ….. And I don't mean merely
somebody's mere assertion that merely issues a
proclamation that Jake Bird was a Christian. I mean
some hard solid evidence that Jake Bird was a
Christian.

 

That is a very impressive argument.
Anytime you present big font and then you bold it too. That is very convincing evidence.
And then you assert that it was "wordy" --this is clearly a solid argument.

Why don't you actually present arguments that actually refute what I post?
Let me tell you why. Its because you do not have any arguments.
Instead you present such as this:
* Mockery
* Ridicule
* Emoticons
* Big Font
* Bold Font.
* Quotes from people you admire
* Video bytes
* Cartoons
* Big pictures

Give me some actual arguments that actually refute this below:

Regarding Jeffery Dahmer:

JAG Wrote:
Jeffery Dahmer was not a Christian when he killed those people. For your
point to stand Jeffery Dahmer would have had to have been a Christian
at the time he killed those people. If he became a Christian after he had
killed them -- while he was in prison, then your point fails. And if he did
became a Christian is was most certainly AFTER he had killed them
and while he was in prison. Also it is not even clear that Jeffery Dahmer
actually became a Christian while he was in prison. But again that does
NOT matter --- for your point to stand he would have had to have been
a Christian when he committed the murders.

Give me just one {1} piece of credible evidence that Jeffery Dahmer was
a Christian at the time he murdered those people.

My view is you have zero evidence to back up your assertions.


Regarding Pedro Lopez:

JAG Wrote:
To assert that Pedro Lopez was a Christian is 100% bald assertion?

I do not believe that you can produce one shred of credible evidence
that demonstrates that Pedro Lopez was a Christian. Give me one,
just one {1}, credible piece of solid evidence that Pedro Lopez was
a Christian -- and be sure to post the link to the source.

My view is you have zero evidence to back up your assertions

 

I am still waiting for you to refute this below:

On Adolph Hitler:
Start quote.
Otto Strasser was a German politician and an early member of the Nazi Party,
he together with his brother Gregor Strasser, was a leading member of the
party's left-wing faction . . . Strasser stated that he was disappointed with
Hitler because:[80]

"We are Christians; without Christianity Europe is lost. Hitler is an atheist."
— Otto Strasser

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Ernst Hanfstaengl was a German-American businessman and intimate friend
of Adolf Hitler . . . .He later described Hitler to be an atheist to all intents
and purposes:[81]

"He was to all intents and purposes an atheist by the time."
— Ernst Hanfstaengl
End quote.
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Hitler_on_atheism


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I am still waiting for you to refute this below:

On Josef Stalin:
Start quote.
"During his time in power, Stalin had a complex relationship with religion.
He officially adopted the Russian Communist Party’s stance on religion,
claiming atheism and continuing the tradition of teaching atheism in
schools and propagating the idea that religion was only damaging to a
perfect communist society. Stalin even took it further than his predecessor,
Lenin, and initiated a nationwide campaign to destroy churches and
religious property and even persecute and kill church officials.3 It is
said that under Stalin, the Russian Orthodox Church went from
50,000 to 500 open and operating churches.4

Stalin once said:
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God… all this talk about
God is sheer nonsense.5:__Josef Stalin

But for all accounts and purposes, Stalin was a hardcore atheist
until the day he died.
End quote.
https://hollowverse.com/joseph-stalin/

 

Notice how some Christians scream for credible evidence whilst believing in a god they have no credible evidence for. How do they live with the double standards?

 

No effort what-so-ever because you contradicted your own standard only half an hour before you tried to bind me up with it.

 

No need your own source clearly indicates that Hitler was not an atheist, like many theists you have ignored the bulk of the evidence and what Hitler himself said and quote mined a third party quote widely debunked. But like many Christians you have no interest in the truth, but every interest in defending your world view which is based on faith, the most dishonest of all beliefs

 

You also noticed, huh?

It's a miracle!!!

 

Misdirection.
Your "friends" in this thread are making outrageous nonsensical
assertions. Are you trying to "cover for them" by using Misdirection?

Regarding your use of the word "scream" -- I am not the one using
big bold font to scream -- your "friends" are the ones doing that.
And you know it -- but "birds of a feather flock together" and you
know that too.

Regarding my Faith. I have announced up-front from the very
beginning that Christianity is a Faith and NOT a philosophical
intellectual system based upon Empiricism and Rationalism
so I have always been honest about that -- so your point has
nothing to do with me or, with my claims.

There is no "double standard." You're trying to "cover for your
friends" because they are the ones that cannot present proof
backing up their far-fetched outrageous claims.

How about you give them a helping hand and you present a
credible argument ~ ~ ~

Regarding Pedro Lopez:

To assert that Pedro Lopez was a Christian is 100% bald assertion?

I do not believe that you can produce one shred of credible evidence
that demonstrates that Pedro Lopez was a Christian. Give me one,
just one {1}, credible piece of solid evidence that Pedro Lopez was
a Christian -- and be sure to post the link to the source.

My view is you have zero evidence to back up your assertions

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Also this:
"Notice how some Christians scream"___Ronald Hillman
It is characteristic of your posting to attack or make denigrating
remarks about the people with which you disagree, rather than
focus your remarks strictly upon the actual arguments they present.
This approach is not an academic intellectual approach to
argumentation, rather it is an approach based upon emotions.

Speaking of Emotions:
I note that some of "your friends" in this thread are using the
following as their "arguments"
* Mockery
* Ridicule
* Emoticons
* Big Font
* Bold Font.
* Quotes from people they admire
* Video bytes
* Cartoons
* Big pictures

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False.

False.

False.
Mere assertion.

False.

False.
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"Notice how some Christians scream"___Ronald Hillman
"But like many Christians you have no interest in the truth."___Ronald Hillman

It is characteristic of your posting to attack or make denigrating
remarks about the people with which you disagree, rather than
focus your remarks strictly upon the actual arguments they present.
This approach is not an academic intellectual approach to
argumentation, rather it is an approach based upon emotions.



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What would be a real miracle is for you to actually make an effort
and give me an actual argument proving Jake Bird was a Christian.

You said Jake Bird was a Christian. Now prove it.

"I quickly realized there is little need for any effort"___Thingamabob

The reason that you "quickly realized there is little need for any effort"
is because you KNOW that you have no proof that Jake Bird was a
Christian.

In other words you have zero actual arguments.

Instead what you offer is mockery and ridicule
and emoticons. You managed to actually
produce three {3} emoticons in just one short
post up-thread.

You offer quotes instead of arguments.

The truth is you have no actual reasoned arguments
instead you have your mere opinions and your mere
assertions.

You said that Jake Bird was a Christian. You have zero
proof that he was a Christian.

Give me just one {1} credible piece of evidence that
Jake Bird was a Christian. ….. And I don't mean merely
somebody's mere assertion that merely issues a
proclamation that Jake Bird was a Christian. I mean
some hard solid evidence that Jake Bird was a
Christian.

 

False.
False And I Suspect A Dishonest False Post Too.
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It cannot be dishonest if the one holding the belief announces
up-front that he is not claiming that he can prove what he believes
with secular evidences. And I do announce that.

There is not a shred of dishonesty in any up-front straightforward
sincere public announcement that what is believed cannot be
demonstrated true with Empiricism and Rationalism --- and that
instead it is held true based on Faith. This is my position.

This is 100% honest in every way with a total absence of
anything misleading or hidden-from-view.

To say that a worldview is dishonest based upon Faith as explained
up there is clearly incorrect and also absurd nonsense.

In order for "dishonesty" to occur there has to be a motive to deceive.

I boldly tell you up-front what I just wrote up there --- so my motive
is not to deceive you, but rather to be 100% honest and sincere and
totally straight-forward in every way.


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I didn’t realize you are so fond of quotes. I was sure you told me …..

I probably only misunderstood you. Well, that’s good news because here is a quote that ought to offer some peace and tranquillity.

“Well, you're either an atheist who disbelieves in god or a Scientologist who believes that Xemu, from the planet Tralfamador created the earth.”
- Thingamabob, post 195 on page 8


… and all is well.

 

False.
You have no arguments.
All you have is such as your silly cartoons up there.
If you actually had any credible arguments you would have
posted them long ago.

Everybody reading this thread knows you have no arguments
to back up your claims.

Even the people "on your side" of the ideological spectrum
know that you have no arguments. There are no arguments
to prove that Jake Bird was a Christian. You know it. They know it.
I know it. Your "friends" may post their "support" for you because
"birds of a feather flock together" --- but they still KNOW that you
have no argument that proves Jake Bird was a Christian and
no argument that proves Jeffery Dahmer was a Christian at the
time he committed those murders.

But what you do have is Emotional "arguments" --- stuff like this:
* Mockery
* Ridicule
* Emoticons
* Big Font
* Bold Font.
* Quotes from people you admire
* Video bytes
* Cartoons
* Big pictures

And everybody reading this thread knows it.


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All is well that ends well.
Here is how Christianity ends.

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Look! God's
dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with
them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with
them and be their God. 4'He will wipe every tear from their
eyes. There will be no more death' or mourning or crying or
pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
___Revelation 21:3-4

____________

Here is a prayer for you {and me too -- and for all of us}

May the Lord bless you.
May the Lord keep you safe.
May the Lord make His face to shine upon you.
May the Lord be gracious unto you.
May the Lord turn His face toward you.
May the Lord protect you.
May the Lord protect all those you love.
May the Lord give you peace.
{based on Numbers 6:24-27}


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So really pathetic.

Like this ....

 

False.
Christianity does not end like that.

By the way,
You have no arguments.

All you have is such as your silly absurd pictures and cartoons
and such like -- they are at the Third Grade level of maturity.

If you actually had any credible arguments you would have
posted them long ago.

Everybody reading this thread knows you have no arguments
to back up your claims.

Even the people "on your side" of the ideological spectrum
know that you have no arguments.

There are no arguments to prove that Jake Bird was a Christian.
You know it. They know it. I know it.

Your "friends" may post their "support" for you because "birds of
a feather flock together" --- but they still KNOW that you
have no argument that proves Jake Bird was a Christian and
no argument that proves Jeffery Dahmer was a Christian at the
time he committed those murders.

But what you do have is Emotional "arguments" --- stuff like this:
* Mockery
* Ridicule
* Emoticons
* Big Font
* Bold Font.
* Quotes from people you admire
* Video bytes
* Cartoons
* Big pictures

And everybody reading this thread knows it.


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You even mock and ridicule when I made a sincere
prayer for you {and for us all} I was trying to be nice
to you. But you took my effort to be nice to you, as
another opportunity to mock and ridicule.

Are you proud of yourself?



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