Is God Responsible For The Evil In The World? No He Is Not.

Thank you.

Y'welcome.

I hope you can find at least one {1} tiny little gem of truth
that will help you as you travel along your life's journey.

*Thanks again, Adorno.
*The exchanges here inside Thread World on the
Internet At Large are quite often scratchy and unpleasant.
*Thread World aka Keyboard World is quite often the
Land Of The Cannibals.
* I wrote an Opening Post about this titled "There Is A Lot Of
* Love In Threads On The Internet, Isn't There?
Here:
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...in-threads-on-the-internet-isnt-there.573109/

* Beautiful thoughts. May Thread World become more and
more like this, is my prayer.
* I coined those two labels Thread World and Keyboard World
so I could juxtapose them with what I call Real World where
the more important work of the world is carried forth -- my claim
about this is arguable.

* I'm with you 100% in the spirit of that.
* I'm an optimistic soul.
* Nonetheless, my view is there is very little of what can be called
a "charitable reading of each other's posts" here inside Thread
World on the Internet At Large.

I learned something about William Rowe from what you wrote
and about the idea of "surplus suffering" {eg. the fawn}

Noted.

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Thought For Today:
Human history ends with Christendom being a HUGE
diverse community --- so numerous as to be uncountable
by men,

"After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude
that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and
language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb.
They were wearing white robes and were holding palm
branches in their hands. And they cried out in a loud
voice: "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the
throne, and to the Lamb." Revelation 7:9 -10

 

Irrelevant. I will nevertheless always refer to my conception of God, and that will dictate how I respond to life stimuli.

 

I did not make the ants and the ants aren't made in my image. I have not sacrificed myself to myself to save the ants from myself. I do not love ants and in the spring often put out ant traps. Now if the ants were more human like they would prey to me every day and I could possibly spare a few from time to time.

 

not to you, of course not. sane and rational people however do not believe in nonsense that has no evidence of it's existence. It's the same reason you don't believe in santa clause, the easter bunny or big foot.

 

I agree. It’s why all the Prophets and wise men that God sent to mankind were considered crazy and liars.

Not really. The beliefs of Santa and the Easter bunny are still ideas held within my mind. They simply have no energy (as opposed to when they used to).

 

you can not demonstrate a god of any kind exists, let alone sent prophets.

the beliefs in santa, and the easter bunny are identical to your belief in a god.

 

Tell me something I don’t know.

No, they’re not.

 

You don't seem to know that there is no evidence your god exists.

literally identical, by definition.

 

No, I’m well aware that there’s no evidence.

Give a solitary example.

 

if you were you'd quite making positive definitive statements about it's existence.

santa, easter bunny, your god all have the exact same amount of evidence supporting their existence. Which is zero. The belief in them, is identical by definition.

 

You have a good handle on the human religious dogma.

 

No, because I’m comfortable with the idea of God existing within my mind as a concept.

Yeah, we heard you the first time. You still haven’t pointed out to one attribute that makes God and all those other ideas that you mentioned as alike.

 

I agree it's irrelevant. That's why I said all those groups and people have their own version of the same god.
Meaning each of them is irrelevant on the whole. And only relevant to each person.

 

Not all groups get the same results....

 

Of course "god" is responsible for evil in the world. If he's all-knowing, all-powerful and everything that happens is according to gods plan then he's responsible for the good AND the bad.

 

Of course not.
So again, this god for all, is different god to all who believe in it. Even within the same groups.
It's all personal preference as to the character of god.

I think we are in agreement. Again.

 

It’s called Reality. You’re either submitting to it, or opining about it. Isn’t it better to refer to the original thing?

 

(J)ames 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:"

Temptation prevaileth not towards God nor does God attempt to allow temptation to prevail against any man.

Man's free choices towards other men's free choices.

 

Original thing?
You have said, along with me, that each has their own view of this god. So of all the individuals, you, me, the guy down the street, believe, whose is the original thing.

Odd you are referring to god as thing now.

 

I argued that every person internalizes and consequently projects whatever idea or feeling that may occupy his mind onto his outside reality. Ergo, you have people internalizing and projecting the idea that “Jesus is God,” or others projecting the concept that “there is no God.” Either way, both groups experience a state of existence that reflects their own beliefs.

When I say “the original thing,” I mean internalizing and projecting a concept that assumes nothing about the true state of reality, in other words, instead of one determining his own idea of reality and truth and projecting it, one is in total submission to Truth.

 

Let's keep it simple.
What is the 'true state of reality'? And whose Truth? Yours?

Since you and I agree, each has their own version of reality.

How did you narrow 1000s of groups down to just 2?
You are of neither group. Jesus is god. Or god is not real.
But the jesus is god is part of your god group. IE same god as yours.
God of abraham.

You are Islamic. Islam has at least 2 groups all by themselves.

Christians is another group. We can skip that for now. Because that complicates your version of just 2.
Then there are the Jewish folks also. Complicating your version of just 2.

 

And children are fine with the idea of Santa Clause existing. You being comfortable with the Idea of God does not make God any more real than Santa.

 

Sure, but they don’t keep believing in Santa....

 

Children grow up and become more intelligent - the smart ones do not continue to believe in the Santa Clause version of God that was put on them as Children.

This is true in both Christian and Muslim Nations.

 

Intelligence has nothing to do with it. The children simply lived through particular life experiences whereby their individual belief in Santa was gradually (or instantaneously) deflated. A shift in energy occurred between their absolute belief in Santa, to their absolute non-belief in Santa.