Is impeachment still a possibility?

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    I love the part about accepting results haha..... you guys continuously never accept results and then gaslight over by telling them it’s actually them who doesn’t accept results.
     
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    Impeachment and removal from office are two different things. There is certainly a basis for impeachment on many counts. But the Dems need to select the best path for ending the trump administration. Unless something criminal emerges from this or the other investigations in criminal cases, forcing the Dems to seek impeachment, it is better to treat him like the wounded mad dog that he is and just wait for him to die. Keep on the pressure. Continue with the investigation in the House. Expose as much of the truth as possible. Keep him on the run. And be prepared for trump to refuse to leave, when he loses.

    Prosecute him for crimes after he leaves office.
     
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    Yup.

    The ONLY way the House should impeach him is if a Republican starts the procedure...or if at least one-third of the Republican House members indicate they are willing to vote FOR impeachment.

    Otherwise...just hang him out to dry. 2020 will be here soon...and we gotta go with what the electorate decides then.
     
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    I worry that the biggest hurdle at this point is that trump will refuse to give up power. I give it a 50/50 chance that we see him escorted off the premises. And he may continue to claim he is president after being forced out. He has already dog whistled for a civil war if he is prosecuted for any crimes.

    He will surely try to declare Martial Law. It may come down to whether his staff can talk him down.
     
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    I agree, but with that said, a hillary kind of candidate will not best trump. An establishment democrat will not beat him, IMO.
     
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    He may go more willingly than you think...than any of us think.

    He does not like the job...way too much work...and too many people telling him he is an idiot.

    He likes the benefits...the jazz.

    I think he wants to be in Mar a Lago playing golf...not in Washington screwing things up.
     
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    Unlikely...I personally think he will either quit under pressure or lose the next election and try to get a Pardon not understanding there is no way out of State prosecution.
     
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    I know lots of people will strongly disagree with me on this...

    ...but I do not want to see him prosecuted at all. I want him out of the office...and just gone. Let him play golf and chase strippers.

    Putting a former president in prison is for third world countries...and only the bottom-of-the-barrel of those countries.

    We will survive this abominable administration.

    We should be less concerned with Donald Trump and the sleaze of his administration...than with the fact that so many of our citizens actually see him as an acceptable leader.

    That is an embarrassment...and a danger.
     
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    He is a third-world president. But it depends on what they find. And it depends on what he tries to do before this is over.

    That remains to be seen. I haven't survived this politically. My feelings about this country will never be the same.

    My feelings about this country will never be the same.

    This is a core issue. 40% of the country or so want a very different country than anything it has ever been. Hell, just look at torture. Trump called for extreme torture. But even waterboarding was banned during the US civil war. They are rejecting core American values and replacing them with 3rd world values.

    The divergence in views between trumpers and anti-trumpers is not something that can be resolved. That we should EVER have to argue why we oppose trump, is in itself absurd. We should never have to explain it. It should be and is self evident. He is a thug. He is a crook. He is an egomaniac and a power freak. He is either a pathological liar or the definitive enemy of the truth. He coddles cold-blooded murders because they are birds of a feather.

    We should never have to explain any of this. That we do is why I want to see the Constitution amended to allow secession, or to mostly eliminate the Federal government and become a union of mostly independent states.

    We have irreconcilable differences. And I don't EVER want to have to worry about people like trump, or sessions, or spineless snakes like McConnell, having anything to do with my government again. As far as I'm concerned, trumpers killed America the day they elected trump.
     
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    Righties like to talk about having a social contract with the country. Well that works both ways. Trumpers violated that social contract. They rejected what America has been and decided to make it something else; something that it has never been.

    When they did that they violated that social contract. It is now null and void. I cannot support what they have created to replace a once honorable nation.
     
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    There will definitely be an impeachment. MSNBC and CNN are shilling for it hard.

    They want to gather eyeballs for their networks.
     
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    You'd think Trump would want to be impeached for a number of reasons. One, he was always jealous of Bill Clinton, and would want to top Clinton's impeachment. Two, the ratings would be terrific. Three, he wouldn't have to pretend to be president anymore.
     
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    His approval ratings just went down....

    40 percent at this point feel he should be impeached.
     
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    I hope so, we need to get Shumer, Pelosi, Cortex, Shiff, and two others out of there. Let's get some sanity back into government.
     
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    Most likely impeachment will be simmering on the table for every president for the duration of the USA.
     
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    Is impeachment still a possibility?

    Yes. Because the evidence of obstruction is overwhelming.
     
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    I think conviction in the Senate is a long shot right now, but a public process--presenting evidence and witnesses--should start in the House shortly. I believe all our representatives should go on record with votes in both chambers (assuming the House's votes to impeach).

    Obviously, Trump and his campaign believed the attack on our country could benefit them, and I want to know if our representatives believe the same: I want them all on record.
     
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    The internet has made everyone with a cell phone think he is a legal expert.

    Fortunately, we don't let mobs or pundits decide whether obstruction of justice or "collusion" (can we at long last put that one to bed?) was committed. It does not mean what too many people think it means.

    The elements are specific and they do not include threatening to fire a special prosecutor or an attorney general who works for you and whom you have a right to fire. It doesn't even include actually firing them!

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-73
     
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    Whoever is not Trump.
     

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