Is it fair for men to be afraid of mentoring women?

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Is it fair for men to be afraid of mentoring women?

  1. Unfair and inexcusable

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    11.8%
  2. Unfair but understandable

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  3. Unfair but necessary

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  4. Fair

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    [/QUOTE]I cannot call his actions 'honorable' is acknowledging dishonorable actions. He was acting responsibly (i.e., doing the 'right' thing) in attempting to correct dishonorable actions.

    If you read my post over again, there is a difference between accepting a compliment, and finding offence in it. 'That's a good color on you': Basic positive response: 'Thank you, I like it also'. Offended response: 'Other colors don't look good on me?' or 'I don't appreciate you hitting on me'

    The same statement, with no discoloration, and those who want to find offence, will. It's as simple as that. The present as someone who want's to be offended.

    I don't tell them what to feel: they let it be known exactly what they feel. Someone could be offended, and still respond with a polite thank you. They choose to make sure the world knows they have been offended. See the difference?

    I really don't like it when people spit on the sidewalk, in a parking lot, or even in the grass. Liter, and you've placed yourself on my bad side.

    Again, I don't presume to 'assign' people's feelings. I function by actions and responses.
     
  2. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    @Collateral Damage,

    OK. I see how you're differentiating it now. Thanks for expounding.

    Yeah, littering is one of my things too.

    Here's a funny for you: Before my divorce, we lived in a HOA. A neighbor went to get her trash bin from the curb, opened it (don't know why) and found a bag of dog poop in it. Apparently, someone was out walking their dog, picked up the droppings, tied a knot and tossed it in her can. She was BEYOND FURIOUS. She called the Sanitation department and demanded they bring a truck out to dump it that instant. They didn't. She went to a copy place and make signs on bright neon paper and put one on every neighbors' door. She was still b!tching about it when I moved three years later. I know it's not funny but that's so freaking funny.

    I read some of the posts here the same way. My brain just jumps to "Is THAT the hill you want to die on?" ;-)
     
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  3. Black Irish

    Black Irish Banned

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    I'd assume a lot of couples wouldn't feel comfortable with their spouse being alone with a member of the opposite sex.

    It might should old and archaic, but at the same time it's probably just a common courtesy - bringing sensationalism like "#MeToo" into something that simple really isn't necessary.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure a lot of affairs happen from the intermixing too, maybe adultery should still be a crime
     
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  5. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

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    I care, because what you’re stating is in fact untrue. Our legal system is built on the presumption of innocence, that’s why the burden is on the state too prove guilt. Anyone who says different is living in a alternate reality.
     
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    In the #BelieveWomen times, it's also a shrewd protective strategy.

    The "common courtesy" thing may save your marriage, but the "CYA" thing may save your career.

    Oh, and Mike Pence's "common courtesy" of refusing to be alone with female coworkers was criticized as patriarchal, insulting, and sexist.
     
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    I suppose some would, but a solid relationship shouldn't have that unease. I have friends of both genders, and my spouse does also. We've been married for 29 years. If there isn't a modicum of trust at that point, then you might as well be single.
     
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    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ain't you.. it's others. and the arguement would be "well, they do it"
    Heard enough stories to know it was a bad idea to send mix sex teachers on a road trip together.. wonder how it would work for homos.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember in the "old days", in the 1950s, it was common for a husband who had outstanding character to intentionally hire an ugly older secretary, for the sake of his marriage. Few men were so honorable as that, but it did commonly happen.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One wonders how anyone could be that stupid.

    You would think a black person using a fake ID would at least try to get one with a picture of a black person.

    I believe you though.
     
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    Sorry, I got your post confused with his - I meant to say that to MJ Davies.

    Even if he was really a police officer that has no relation to the "justice system" anyway. The polices' job is just to enforce the law, not practice it.
     
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    I'm not sure I buy into you statements about "the times", if it's based on some silly and legally irrelevant hashtags which allegedly resulted in changes to our laws due to the sheer amount of silly bullshit which got posted there.

    Or you could get hit by a car and become a paraplegic for that matter.

    One door closes, another opens - woo de do, so-called "careers" are a dime-a-dozen, and not even necessarily being worthy of being called such to begin with.

    By whom, and what differentiates them from any other irrelevant nobody?
     
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    Not to mention that what a lot of people naively refer to a "career" to begin with is worthless nothing and easily expendable; living one's life in irrational fear and paranoia isn't worth the price.
     
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    Well it is far more complicated than that these days as well. Grabbing your secretary's boob is clearly sexual harassment, but these days it is much more nebular as anything that makes someone feel uncomfortable whether intended or not is now deemed hostility.
     

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