Is it fair, smart or valid to use Trump's past against him when judging his POTUS performance?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Is it fair, smart or valid to use Trump's past against him when judging his POTUS performance?

    Yes!!

    Next!
     
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    Do you honsrtly think there is a “silent majority” out there that will support Trump?
     
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    Da
    day-am! And here I was thinking I have spent the last few years discussing his record as a president

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    Which has been pitiful

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    There's no possible way to know the future. The silent speak in 324 days.
     
  6. Babalu

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    Two points.

    Trump's values are tried and true traditional.and his North Star is the Constitution and an originalist interpretation of it.

    He is following a pretty moderate and well proven philosophy.

    His critics are those who are obsessed with making America Socialist, Communist or Islamist.

    Trump is doing a fine job.

    www.magapill.com

    Click on each accomplishment to read a detailed 3rd party description.

    Second point.

    Your opinion is AT BEST only half fast.

    It is informed by all the bad things (real, invented or irrelevant) which the enemy media can pump into you and is full of "stuff" we all knew when we elected him..

    You are telling us repeatedly things we already know as though by telling us again and again that one day we will "get it" and say, "OH MY GOD, he is Orange and was a ladies man, well that means he CAN NOT POSSIBLY BE A GREAT PRESIDENT!".

    You are ignoring reality.

    But I will give you a chance to prove to the world that I am mistaken about thinking you only bring half a load to the debate..

    I challenge you to make a case FOR Donald Trump using the information your media has presented you.

    If you can do a credible job of it, then I will give your opinion some attention.

    There are millions of us who know the bad side AND the good side of the Trump story and we LOVE the guy.

    We have all the information and we chose him and will stay with him.

    You have only HALF the story, the bad half, and you hate him.

    What will happen if you try to present the OTHER half?

    I believe your opinion will be that we have good reasons for supporting him.

    But if you are not American or if you are Communist or Muslim, then your opinion doesnt count because you want your ideology to replace ours and no one can expect you to be objective.

    So, put up or shut up.

    Present the reasons why Conservatives are well advised to support him as we do.

    I dont think you can.

    And if you dont, we will all be able to dismiss all your future comments without a second thought whenever we see your moniker.
     
  7. Babalu

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    Sorry, but even though I've repeatedly posted the url for this site, you have missed the accomplishments or you are mentally unable to figure out how to click on the link or something.

    So I have done you the favor of copying the President's list of accomplishments for you.

    You are welcome.

    (The entire list was too long to post.)

    President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments List:
    Government
    Trump signs executive order protecting Medicare
    Trump Signs Bill Protecting Disability Payments for Veterans Who Declare Bankruptcy
    Trump signs 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law
    Trump signs bill to fund Autism CARES Act
    Trump meets Kim Jong Un at DMZ and becomes first sitting US President to enter North Korea
    Trump signs measure aimed at Preventing Veteran Suicides
    Trump signs Major public lands Conservation bill into law
    Trump signs into law Genocide Prevention Act
    Trump signs legislation enhancing US Leadership in Indo Pacific region
    President Trump signs Ashanti Alert Act into law
    Trump Signs $867B Bipartisan Farm Bill with Welfare Reform Work Requirements
    Trump Signs Law Punishing Chinese Officials Who Restrict Access to Tibet
    Production of Hemp to become Legal in all 50 States with Farm Bill passage
    Trump Limits Asylum Migrants must come in Legally
    Trump Signs New Hezbollah Sanctions Into Law
    Trump signs Opioids Law at White House event
    Trump signs bipartisan Water Infrastructure spending law
    Trump signs the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades
    Trump signs bills to Help Patients stop overpaying for Medicine
    Trump signs law ending Gag Orders against Pharmacists sharing Money Saving information
    Trump signs bill requiring Airports to provide spaces for Breastfeeding Moms
    Trump signs Karis Law on the 50th Anniversary of 911
    Trump signs order to keep Guantanamo Military Prison open
    Trump signs proclamation directing troops to secure border
    President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong-un sign ‘important document’ at Singapore summit
    Trump signs law giving Border Patrol better Fentanyl detection tools
    Trump signs law expanding Hate Crime protections to Religious Institutions
    Trump signs technical education bill into law
    Trump signs law to expand Childhood Cancer Research
    Trump signs bill easing U.S. bank rules into law
    TRUMP SIGNS LAW FIGHTING SEX-TRAFFICKING
    Trump Cuts aid to Palestine
     
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    If you look at Trump’s actions now and you can directly trace it back to actions in the past, then I would think it’s perfectly valid to bring up his history.

    Trump was continually involved in lawsuits against the contractors and laborers we worked with. Thousands of lawsuits. That shows a pattern of working poorly in problem solving and employee relations. A problem that continues today with his current staffs high turnover and his inability to build coalitions with his own party.

    In the past, Trump hires a “fixer” to handle very shady problems such as his pay offs of porn stars to hide affairs. That fixer, Cohen, is now in jail. Now Trump is accused of using another fixer, Giuliani, to run a shady operation in Ukraine- and that fixer is under investigation as are the Presidents actions.

    Patterns are patterns. Trump used falsehoods to promote his University and had to pay restitution. His patterns of falsehoods to promote his brand. continue. Trump’s main concern has always been his brand.
     
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    Oh yeah, nothing more hilarious than making fun of those being against killing babies.
     

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