Is Public Education welfare?

I did not mean that entire Public Schools just for Kindergarten were built as a matter of fact the Pilot Program that has a Public Kindergarten in my town has the Kindergarten set up in the High School.

And since Kindergarten is NOT MANDATORY in Massachusetts.....aka....KIDS DON'T HAVE TO GO.....there is absolutely NO REASON for the state to have Public Kindergarten available in every town and I can tell you right now in the Western part of Massachusetts in the Berkshires there are NO BUSES and NO KINDERGARTENS available within less than 60 to 0 minutes driving time at 30-35 mph of School Bus velocity.

AA...p.s....How about it Amy?

I am...ssssooooorrryyyy???

 

Every American kid can go to public kindergarten and be transported to and from it. Lol. Lemme reiterate, EVERY AMERICAN KID CAN GO TO KINDERGARTEN AND BE TRANSPORTED TO AND FROM SCHOOL DAILY.
Go on and tell me what county in Massachusetts doesn't have public kindergarten.

 

Hmmmm.....well if she was....I think I know why.

She is not a bad person or anything.....but she could use some humility....but then again....don't we all?

AA

 

Again.....your not getting this.

There are Kindergartens either Public or Private available in every Massachusetts county.....there just is not enough of them and NO.....people are NOT freaking out about this as Kindergarten IS NOT MANDATORY IN MASSACHUSETTS!!

This is the point you keep overlooking.

Parents do not need to have their kid go to Kindergarten because it is not required for a kid in Mass. to get into First Grade!!

Thus we do have a small number of Private Kindergartens and a few Public and a Pilot Program where the town or city runs a Kindergarten out of one of their other schools...in our town it is the High School and kids from other towns can go to it but unless you are a supposed POOR MINORITY....you do not have to pay....BUT....everyone else does pay part of the cost....it is NOT FREE in these Pilot Programs.

AA

 

How do students grades 1-12 get to school?
Haha.

 

There are Kindergartens either Public or Private available in every Massachusetts county.....there just is not enough of them and NO.....people are NOT freaking out about this as Kindergarten IS NOT MANDATORY IN MASSACHUSETTS!!

This is the point you keep overlooking.

Parents do not need to have their kid go to Kindergarten because it is not required for a kid in Mass. to get into First Grade!!

Thus we do have a small number of Private Kindergartens and a few Public and a Pilot Program where the town or city runs a Kindergarten out of one of their other schools...in our town it is the High School and kids from other towns can go to it but unless you are a supposed POOR MINORITY....you do not have to pay....BUT....everyone else does pay part of the cost....it is NOT FREE in these Pilot Programs.

AA[/QUOTE]

AA, I said many times now every US kid can go to public kindergarten and be taken to and from it every day.
I asked you about Massachusetts time and how it changes. Can you tell me about that?

 

AA, I said many times now every US kid can go to public kindergarten and be taken to and from it every day.
I asked you about Massachusetts time and how it changes. Can you tell me about that?[/QUOTE]

Massachusetts time?

You mean Daylight Savings time which REALLY P!$$E$ ME OFF when we have to Fall Back as apposed to SPRING FORWARD in the early spring.

I always get a bit depressed when it starts getting dark at around 4 pm and even earlier in late December in the Winter when it is overcast.

A while back they changed the dates when we spring ahead or fall back so it is not as bad as we can push the clocks forwards I think 1 or 2 weeks earlier now?

Is that what you are asking me about??

AA

 

And there we are.

AA

 

An hour via bus, rail, car, walking, bicycle, etc? You have to be more specific.

There are five government high schools within five kilometres from my house and another about 10 kilometres away, so students in my neighbourhood can choose but each high school has 'feeder' primary schools which service these schools. If there are enough places, students can choose high schools outside their feeder area. My grandson attends a primary school outside his feeder area. These government schools aren't academically selective like some private schools for example.

In my day, if you live more than one kilometre from school, you get subsidised public transport. I think it's the same today. Some private bus operators run school buses, which are subsidised, especially in the outer areas where there's no government run public transport.

 

Massachusetts time?

You mean Daylight Savings time which REALLY P!$$E$ ME OFF when we have to Fall Back as apposed to SPRING FORWARD in the early spring.

I always get a bit depressed when it starts getting dark at around 4 pm and even earlier in late December in the Winter when it is overcast.

A while back they changed the dates when we spring ahead or fall back so it is not as bad as we can push the clocks forwards I think 1 or 2 weeks earlier now?

Is that what you are asking me about??

AA[/QUOTE]

Haha. Daylight is longer during daylight savings time. Massachusetts is eastern time zone. I live in Georgia. I'm also in the eastern time zone. It doesn't get dark at 4:00.
The clock is pushed forward or back Sunday, midnight. Cell phones do it automatically.
The eastern time zone is most important.

 

Haha. Daylight is longer during daylight savings time. Massachusetts is eastern time zone. I live in Georgia. I'm also in the eastern time zone. It doesn't get dark at 4:00.
The clock is pushed forward or back Sunday, midnight. Cell phones do it automatically.
The eastern time zone is most important.[/QUOTE]

NO S#!#!!

LOL!!

Thus SPRING FORWARD.....FALL BACK!!!

And the clocks are pushed forward or back on SATURDAY NIGHT/SUNDAY MORNING.

NOT SUNDAY NIGHT!!!

And ANYONE on this forum who lives as far north as I do at least as north as Connecticut will tell you that during the month of December it get's very overcast and by 4:00 pm it is relatively DARK and even by 3:00 pm is is almost twilight due to cloud cover in late December.

NOW I WANT MY APOLOGY!!!

AA

 

Lol. It is because this forum has an antiquated set up. But you don't understand how basic and outdated it is. The format when private messaging is ridiculous.

 

Oh...and even a MORON would know the cell phones auto adjust for DLS time!!

This FORUM and many like it allow a member to preset for auto time adjust.

You really need to say your sorry.

AA

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Yes....but it's what we got.

Now....how about it?

AA

 

NO S#!#!!

LOL!!

Thus SPRING FORWARD.....FALL BACK!!!

And the clocks are pushed forward or back on SATURDAY NIGHT/SUNDAY MORNING.

NOT SUNDAY NIGHT!!!

And ANYONE on this forum who lives as far north as I do at least as north as Connecticut will tell you that during the month of December it get's very overcast and by 4:00 pm it is relatively DARK and even by 3:00 pm is is almost twilight due to cloud cover in late December.

NOW I WANT MY APOLOGY!!!

AA[/QUOTE]

Midnight is when Saturday becomes Sunday and that is when my Galaxy springs forward or falls back.
Sunset along the east coast never happens before 5. Ever. Never.

 

I just cleaned out my inbox. Haha.

 

Midnight is when Saturday becomes Sunday and that is when my Galaxy springs forward or falls back.
Sunset along the east coast never happens before 5. Ever. Never.[/QUOTE]

Again....you said....The clock is pushed forward or back Sunday, midnight.

In reality as we depend on all our electronic devises as well as GPS the time is pushed back on Saturday at exactly 12 PM......not Sunday 12 AM...and there is a reason for this even though a person wpould think the two are the same thing...they are not and I will explain.

First of all MIDNIGHT....is the designation specific to the END OF A DAY....thus when a person say's MIDNIGHT SATURDAY......then mean 12 PM Saturday......because if you say MIDNIGHT SUNDAY.....that refers to 12 pm Sunday night NOT Sunday Morning....Understand?

If we did not designate Midnight as a PM time...then people would not know if say...THURSDAY MIDNIGHT.....meant Thursday 12 PM or THURSDAY 12 AM!!!

Get it now???

Plus when you Fall Back you do so at Saturday 12 PM or Sunday 12 AM and it becomes Saturday 11 PM.

You do not fall back from Sunday Midnight because that is Sunday 12 PM!!!

AA

 

Again....you said....The clock is pushed forward or back Sunday, midnight.

In reality as we depend on all our electronic devises as well as GPS the time is pushed back on Saturday at exactly 12 PM......not Sunday 12 AM...and there is a reason for this even though a person wpould think the two are the same thing...they are not and I will explain.

First of all MIDNIGHT....is the designation specific to the END OF A DAY....thus when a person say's MIDNIGHT SATURDAY......then mean 12 PM Saturday......because if you say MIDNIGHT SUNDAY.....that refers to 12 pm Sunday night NOT Sunday Morning....Understand?

If we did not designate Midnight as a PM time...then people would not know if say...THURSDAY MIDNIGHT.....meant Thursday 12 PM or THURSDAY 12 AM!!!

Get it now???

Plus when you Fall Back you do so at Saturday 12 PM or Sunday 12 AM and it becomes Saturday 11 PM.

You do not fall back from Sunday Midnight because that is Sunday 12 PM!!!

AA[/QUOTE]

12 PM is noon. Lunchtime.
12 AM is the middle of the night.
Haha...wow.

 

Again....you said....The clock is pushed forward or back Sunday, midnight.

In reality as we depend on all our electronic devises as well as GPS the time is pushed back on Saturday at exactly 12 PM......not Sunday 12 AM...and there is a reason for this even though a person wpould think the two are the same thing...they are not and I will explain.

First of all MIDNIGHT....is the designation specific to the END OF A DAY....thus when a person say's MIDNIGHT SATURDAY......then mean 12 PM Saturday......because if you say MIDNIGHT SUNDAY.....that refers to 12 pm Sunday night NOT Sunday Morning....Understand?

If we did not designate Midnight as a PM time...then people would not know if say...THURSDAY MIDNIGHT.....meant Thursday 12 PM or THURSDAY 12 AM!!!

Get it now???

Plus when you Fall Back you do so at Saturday 12 PM or Sunday 12 AM and it becomes Saturday 11 PM.

You do not fall back from Sunday Midnight because that is Sunday 12 PM!!!

AA[/QUOTE]

Gawd Alpha, I really feel bad for you.
You just crucified yourself on a public forum.
This is what happens when you try to talk about things you're ignorant about. These are the kind of critical errors frequently made here by posters pretending to be someone they aren't.

 

12 PM is noon. Lunchtime.
12 AM is the middle of the night.
Haha...wow.[/QUOTE]

I KNOW THAT!!! LOL!!!

I am talking about the moment that is designated as MIDNIGHT.

The word....MID...NIGHT...or Midnight....is specific to the middle of the night of the day that is passing or passed.

Thus if we say it is Midnight on Saturday.....we are talking about 12 AM on Sunday.

If as YOU SAID....we move the clocks on SUNDAY MIDNIGHT.....that would be 12 AM Monday.

See what I am saying?

The fact is on Saturday at MIDNIGHT...which is Sunday 12 AM.....this fall we will push the clocks back to 11 PM Saturday.

What I was trying to explain as far as using Saturday 12 PM....and yes I KNOW Saturday 12 PM is Noon or 1200 Hours military time.

What I am trying to explain is that as far as moving the clock back and as far as our computer systems we designate Military Time 2400 Hours to at that point turn back the clocks this fall as due to the computer systems we cannot set back the clock from a designated 0000 Hours.

That was what I was trying to explain...poorly I admit by using the PM for 12 midnight.

Got me now??

AA

 

One last thing.

What AM and PM stand for.

The 12-hour clock is a time convention in which the 24 hours of the day are divided into two periods: a.m. (from the Latin, ante meridiem, meaning before midday) and p.m. (post meridiem, meaning after midday).

Thus the REASON I made the mistake of saying 12 PM...and I should not have used that designation...but the fact is PM stands for Post Midday.


But now that I am thinking about this we do NOT reset out clocks at this time!!

In the U.S., clocks change at 2:00 a.m. local time. In spring, clocks spring forward from 1:59 a.m. to 3:00 a.m.; in fall, clocks fall back from 1:59 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. In the EU, clocks change at 1:00 a.m. Universal Time. In spring, clocks spring forward from 12:59 a.m. to 2:00 a.m.; in fall, clocks fall back from 1:59 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.
In the United States, Daylight Saving Time commences at 2:00 a.m. to minimize disruption. However, many states restrict bars from serving alcohol between 2:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. At 2:00 a.m. in the fall, however, the time switches back one hour. So, can bars serve alcohol for that additional hour? Some states claim that bars actually stop serving liquor at 1:59 a.m., so they have already stopped serving when the time reverts to Standard Time. Other states solve the problem by saying that liquor can be served until "two hours after midnight." In practice, however, many establishments stay open an extra hour in the fall.
In the U.S., 2:00 a.m. was originally chosen as the changeover time because it was practical and minimized disruption. Most people were at home and this was the time when the fewest trains were running. It is late enough to minimally affect bars and restaurants, and it prevents the day from switching to yesterday, which would be confusing. It is early enough that the entire continental U.S. switches by daybreak, and the changeover occurs before most early shift workers and early churchgoers are affected.

AA

 

I KNOW THAT!!! LOL!!!

I am talking about the moment that is designated as MIDNIGHT.

The word....MID...NIGHT...or Midnight....is specific to the middle of the night of the day that is passing or passed.

Thus if we say it is Midnight on Saturday.....we are talking about 12 AM on Sunday.

If as YOU SAID....we move the clocks on SUNDAY MIDNIGHT.....that would be 12 AM Monday.

See what I am saying?

The fact is on Saturday at MIDNIGHT...which is Sunday 12 AM.....this fall we will push the clocks back to 11 PM Saturday.

What I was trying to explain as far as using Saturday 12 PM....and yes I KNOW Saturday 12 PM is Noon or 1200 Hours military time.

What I am trying to explain is that as far as moving the clock back and as far as our computer systems we designate Military Time 2400 Hours to at that point turn back the clocks this fall as due to the computer systems we cannot set back the clock from a designated 0000 Hours.

That was what I was trying to explain...poorly I admit by using the PM for 12 midnight.

Got me now??

AA[/QUOTE]

You're a glutton for punishment.
Unbelievable.

 

Gawd Alpha, I really feel bad for you.
You just crucified yourself on a public forum.
This is what happens when you try to talk about things you're ignorant about. These are the kind of critical errors frequently made here by posters pretending to be someone they aren't.[/QUOTE]

Look....I just explained myself on post #443.

And the fact is I just remembered we don't even move our clocks at 12 Midnight anymore.

I was trying to explain something in great detail and I should have used Military Tim to begin with.

But just know this.

When a person say's.....Sunday at Midnight.....like YOU did.....this means either 2400 Hours Sunday or 0000 Hours Monday.

It does NOT mean 0000 hours Sunday nor does it mean 2400 hours Saturday......as YOU said.....

......we set the clocks at 12 Midnight on Sunday......we don't.....and even if we still did set our clocks at Midnight....it would be MIDNIGHT SATURDAY 2400 HOURS.

NOT Midnight Sunday as YOU said.....which is actually 12 AM or 0000 Hours Monday.

Everyone got me now???

AA

 

What are US shifts?

 

It becomes a Welfare problem when the Federal government gets involved. Up until the Fed's getting involved in Education of children, teaching children was done and supported on a local, county and State basis. The United States was founded, formed and grew to international prominence and prestige without compulsory schooling and with virtually no government involvement in schooling. Before the advent of government-controlled schools, literacy was high (91-97% in the North, 81% in the South), private and community schools proliferated, and people cared about education and acted on their desire to learn and have their children learn. Municipalities created local public schools subsidized by the people. It's politicians that have profited by control of schools. Question, how many of you out there pay school taxes? I do and it's in the thousands.
The literacy rates among fourth grade students in America are sobering. "Sixty six percent of all U.S. fourth graders scored "below proficient" on the 2013 National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP) reading test, meaning that they are not reading at grade level. Even more alarming is the fact that among students from low-income backgrounds, 80 percent score below grade level in reading. Reading proficiency among middle school students isn't much better. On the 2013 NAEP reading test, about 22 percent of eighth graders scored below the "basic" level, and only 36 percent of eighth graders were at or above grade level." I keep hearing those infamous words, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

 

You're a glutton for punishment.
Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]



AMY.....FROM YOUR POST #435.

Quote...."The clock is pushed forward or back Sunday, midnight."...end quote GeorgiaAmy.


Again you are saying the clock is pushed forward or back SUNDAY MIDNIGHT!!

THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID!!!

SUNDAY MIDNIGHT......IS....SUNDAY 2400 HOURS.....or MONDAY 0000 HOURS.

THIS IS WRONG!!!

The clocks were pushed back or forward at SATURDAY MIDNIGHT....or SATURDAY 2400 HOURS...OR SUNDAY 0000 HOURS!!!


YOU WERE WRONG....NOT ME!!!

You were the one asking me a question to see if I was American and you not only were wrong about the day and time.....


YOU ALSO DID NOT KNOW THAT.....clocks change at 2:00 a.m. local time. In spring, clocks spring forward from 1:59 a.m. to 3:00 a.m.; in fall, clocks fall back from 1:59 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. In the EU, clocks change at 1:00 a.m. Universal Time. In spring, clocks spring forward from 12:59 a.m. to 2:00 a.m.; in fall, clocks fall back from 1:59 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.

SO.....maybe it is YOU that is not American!!!!

LOL!!!!

AA