Is Sweden Bracing For War With Russia - Or For A Civil War?

I thought the Preobrazanski Regiment defeated Sweden, and Peter the Great used the prisoners to keep his city clean? Why didn't he grab Sweden then?

Bit of reality here, Vladimir Putin doesn't need land, he has plenty of it. What he needs is people to develop it, and is offering free land to everyone who is of Russian and Slavic descent and wants to retain their heritage... even Poles. Problem is the Russians in the Baltics and Ukraine aren't willing to leave their ancestral lands and homes.

 

Are you arguing that Putin wouldn't take back Finland and the Baltic States if he could? I have to agree that he probably isn't after Sweden itself but cutting Sweden's wherewithal to cause him problems was and is a worthy goal for an international gamesman, is it not?

 

You have to listen to what Putin says sometimes. From what I gathered, he wants to repopulate Russia with people of Russian and Slavic descent, who want to maintain their religious and cultural heritage. So why would he want the Swedes who speak a Germanic language and are ultra liberal... or any other Western European for that matter?

As for the Baltics, they have a legitimate fear of Russia. But not because Russia has done anything to them, but because they run on an apartheid system, and the Russian people are suffering. When Putin said the break up of the Soviet Union was the worse tragedy of the century, he said it because after the break up, 30 million Russians found themselves living outside of Russia.

It's a pity that these Russian areas in the Baltic countries as well as in Ukraine, weren't given the same rights as Russia had given them when they declared their independence.

 

I don't know about you, but I'm getting seriously worried by the way this is all going; I actually believe that a world war is being engineered - by the good ol' U S of A. Whoever would have thunk that?

 

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I live part of the year near Vancouver. Multiculturalism works in Canada and the idea Vancouver has a problem is utter nonsense.

 

Europe created its own problem by inviting in Muslims as cheap labor. In my years of visiting Europe, I see Muslims in hotels working as housekeepers, Muslim men driving taxis, working in the building trades, and so on.

 

I was watching a BBC Panorama program last night which highlighted the fact that a town called Blackburn is only a whisker away from being populated by more ethnics than indigenous. And if the BBC says so it must be true.

 

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How ignorant you are about this subject. That's only because the very high cost of living in Vancouver has pushed most of the more problematic elements out.
Sure, "multiculturalism" tends to work out great if that other culture happens to be Chinese (and a few other parts in Far East Asia).

I'm probably putting words in your mouth, but you seem to be advocating that if only Sweden had the same type of ethnic composition Vancouver does everything would be just peachy.

 

I've been all over the UK many times and Muslims aren't a big problem, especially outside of the major cities where they tend to live.

 

How do you know? Have you lived in these cities long-term? Have you talked to the victims? Have you looked at the statistics?

How do we know this isn't having an effect on the rent prices or job opportunities for vulnerable groups of Britons? (young adults, the elderly, the handicapped)

I can see you haven't looked into this.

 

Yes, they are. Their agenda is sickening.

 

They refuse to integrate so that's 'a big problem'!

 

Good post. I honestly don't know what motivates these apologists, although I suppose it can only be denial.

 

Russia has historically sought to expand its territory to the east.
The Russian troops were several times in Western Europe. Both in Paris and in Berlin. But we did not seize the territory.
The seizure of the Baltic and Finland in 1939, is a Communist project.
It was not a national Russian idea. It is not a Russian characteristic.

 

Sorry, but this is very strange.You are sure that Putin ( Russia) wants to "return" Finland and the Baltic states, but do not know why Putin needs it .
Try to dream up, why do we need a territory with a hostile population?

 

Vancouver is one of the most multicultural big cities in the world:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Vancouver​

Caucasions are just 52.5% of the population.

It would depend upon how Sweden deals with ethnic minorities.

 

I've spent literally months in the UK in the past ten years. Talked to victims? What victims? There are always "victims" of ethnic clashes, so what we're talking about is how many.

I'm sure the existence of Muslims has some impact. For one, they work cheap and that helps the overall economy.

You ask questions, answer them yourself, and then draw conclusions. Hohhhh-Kayyyyy.....

 

"British people were especially far from the mark when asked what proportion of the UK population is Muslim. The real answer is just one in twenty – but Britons believe it to be almost one in six. That would mean there were almost 10 million Muslims in the UK when in reality there are 2.8 million."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ity-happiness-ipsos-mori-survey-a7476526.html​

How Muslims interact with the dominant UK culture has a lot to do with how they're integrating into society. If they're ostracized, they're more likely to cling to beliefs they bring from other cultures.

Then, for Europe:

"In 2030, Muslims are projected to make up more than 10% of the total population in 10 European countries: Kosovo (93.5%), Albania (83.2%), Bosnia-Herzegovina (42.7%), Republic of Macedonia (40.3%), Montenegro (21.5%), Bulgaria (15.7%), Russia (14.4%), Georgia (11.5%), France (10.3%) and Belgium (10.2%)."

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/the-future-of-the-global-muslim-population​

If you take out some of the countries, the problem is much smaller than you claim. Of course, if EU residents are free to move around in the EU, a lot of countries with small Muslim populations could find themselves with more Muslims in the future.

I won't deny that Europe has a problem with Muslims. How much of it is of their own making and how much is inevitable are matters for discussion.

 

Do they or are they ostracized?

Young people leave the old culture behind, including misogynist cultures many Muslims come from, when they're fully integrated in a progressive school system. It's happening where I live part of the year in Canada.

It turns out young Muslim women look at the larger Canadian culture where women are treated with more respect and start looking around for Canadian boyfriends. Oops.

 

So give me a couple of practical examples of how they integrate in Canada then??

 

There is no such thing as a "muslim no go zone" in Sweden. Anyone who posts crap like this is either mis informed at best, or, an outright liar at worst. Take your pick.

 

Public schools as a matter of policy are inclusive of all religions, cultures, and races, but in the context of uncompromising Canadian values of equal rights for women and minorities. Young Muslim women are encouraged to choose their mates, careers, and lead full independent lives.

There's a lot of buy-in on inclusion by unions on the policy and unions have a lot more power jn Canada than they have in the U.S. Business has followed the lead.

 

From what I read, the same existed in Europe with the first immigrants. Many wanted to integrate with the culture they were living in, and even convert. That stopped as more migrants began coming in, maybe because they felt resented.