Is that pork? Alcohol? Sorry, sir, you have to see another cashier.

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    The reason that such women are still wearing Burkas in Europe...almost zero in the U.S....is because their men demand it of them.

    NO ONE and I mean NO ONE want's to wear a head to toe Burka in the summer!!!

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    You'd be surprised.
     
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    As Goomba wrote, you'd be surprised.I know a woman who has continued to wear her burka even though she chose to separate from her husband. She finds security in it and likes the anonymity and she lives in a non-muslim area of England, so nothing to do with external pressures.
     
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    Thanks Alpha. It's not complicated except for bigots.
     
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    They probably also want to hire newly arrived Muslim workers but can't because they work in halal places. The entitled locals probably think entry level cashiers should make a living wage north of 35k or they strike, but only after they apply to the job at the offered wage. Like we have here now.
     
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    First time I ever saw an interracial couple was in Paris in the early 1950s...
     
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    There's no reason, none at all, why the larger retailer should cater to the wishes of bigoted employees. The employee was hired to do a job, if he refuses to do the job, he should be fired and replaced.

    It's not complicated. People have a right to freedom of religion, they don't have a right to a job. If they refuse to do the job, it's not hard to replace them.
     
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    Oh, you'll see a rise in things like veils and burkas when a given nation starts implementing facial recognition software. The fashion will become popular with men, too.
     
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    People have a right to freedom of religion and if a central tenet of the religion means not handling a certain product, for example, then it ought not to be beyond the creative capacity of the management of a multinational corporation to arrive at some means of accommodating such a basic request. For me, that would be an indication of good management practice.
     
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    The government didnt force you to work there therefore your argument doesn't apply.

    The business has a right to do what it wants to turn a profit. This is what they want, it was their decision, not decreed to them so they can do it and you are free to shop there or not - up to you.

    That is all. /thread
     
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    Sure. I'm merely questioning the wisdom of such a decision.
     
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    That all businesses should go out of its way? That is fine, just dont force it by law.
     
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    Sounds like the complete idiocy we come to expect from the UK, but if that's what the store chooses to do, so be it.
     
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    Texas....Mmmm.
     
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    Ya, I've never heard of employers in Texas hiring people who have a problem with the whole sale of their products to customers. If you find any, do please let me know.
     
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    Intolerance allied with Texas...Who would of thought it?
     
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    I agree that it ought not to be a legal requirement but left to the discretion of each individual employer. Obviously, it's not necessarily practical for small businesses to introduce such a policy. But I think the decision of the employer mentioned in the OP is a correct and sensible one. Like I inferred previously, it's not as if staff under the age of 21 working in many big supermarket chains where alcohol is sold are allowed to deal with transactions involving the said product anyway. As such a policy of restrictive selling already exists.
     
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    Ya, that's why I said if a store chooses to do so, so be it.
     
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    Apologies for the misunderstanding.
     
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    No need to apologize, I'm guilty of doing the same thing.
     
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    It is perfectly legal and a protected right of an individual for anyone to wear a Burka if they so choose in the United States.

    Now I get around....and I mean I REALLY get around not only around the world but in the U.S. as well and I have NEVER seen a woman wearing a Burka...never mind wearing one in the summer.

    I did see very unfortunately because I was in a position with my Team where we could not do anything about it while it happened as to do so would have resulted in some deaths of my Team Members....a young Muslim Woman buried up to her chest in the ground being stoned to death for infidelity because she was RAPED.

    I have seen many people die but believe me this was horrible as her own Husband, Father and Father-in Law were the first to cast the large grapefruit sized rocks.

    She started screaming and after quite some time....the Human body is very tough....the screaming turned into a low moaning and then nothing.

    This was in a small village that was about 9000 feet above sea level with mountains surrounding it up another 2000 feet and I watched the whole thing as well did my Team through or scopes.

    We went in at night as we were there for a specific reason and after being asked 10 times by every single Team Member I acquiesced and told them...."Go Ahead."

    Only a couple Male Villagers lived through that night.

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    That must of been really distressing for you. Where precisely did it happen?
     
  23. AboveAlpha

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    Asia.

    I think about it often sometimes....and sometimes I do not think about it until I dream about it.

    The Hand Picked members of my Team are specifically picked not only for their skills and capability but for their temperament as I do not want any..."Let's get SUM!"....types on my Team as a successful JOB is one where everyone goes home on all sides.

    But all this went out the window as all my KIDS watched this happen and they wanted payback for that poor girl...and she was a girl.

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    This would be reason for hatred....if one can be accepted.
     
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    In my line of work...Hatred is a liability.

    When they started stoning that poor girl our basic instinct was to to come out shooting....as their was not one of us who did not HATE what was going on to our deepest core.

    If we could have done something about it and not placed ourselves in extreme danger as we were too far away and we had other combatants near us but they were unaware of our presence....I would have ordered my Team to go in.

    But we couldn't...and I made sure we didn't.

    If I or any other Member of my Team had let their emotions or Hatred govern them...we would have definitely lost some Team members and that I will NOT allow.

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