Is the left attempting to destroy America as we know it?

It's always interesting to watch the memes issued to the anti-Americans berserkers by their ideological entertainment masters for them to parrot.

The all-purpose, nebulous, ubiquitous "Liberals!" that forever festers in their noggins has now been supplemented with their contrived "alt-left!" and that perennial bête noire, "communists!"

The Republican politicians, Joint Chiefs of Staff, CEOs of America's major corporations, and decent, patriotic Americans everywhere at whom this one is stridently spewed must chortle.

KKK Grand Wizard David Duke appreciates the vote of confidence, I'm sure.

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If that works for you, then god bless you.

 

But this is perfectly fine?

 

Is the left attempting to destroy America as we know it?

It's not the left or the right at this point....it's just Trump, and both the left and right know it.

 

It has been the goal of progressives since Woodrow Wilson to unseat the constitutional basis of our republic and, as Obama promised in 2008, to "fundamentally transform the United States of America." A necessary step in this process is to revise history and eliminate all vestiges of the system you are trying to replace, which include founders and framers and important philosophies and supporting documents. That is the goal. It ain't rocket science.

 

Democrats simply favor communism over the American dream.

Thats fine, but i dont think America needs to be destroyed just because it.

Democrats can have everything they want by moving to Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, China, or North Korea.

 

Yup here some of dat Lub'n.

 

Destroying history is tantamount to destroying those who revere it. The irrational hatred of the left is becoming more and more intense and destroying monuments makes it clear that nothing's off the table for what they might do in the future. They all need a lobotomy.

 

No one is destroying history. That is a false premise started by your nazi president.

Moving a statue to a museum or private property is not destroying it.

 

Have you been asleep for the last couple of weeks?

 

No, can you communicate actual points? The statues are being moved, not destroyed.

 

The point is that this statuary policy is a slippery slope. Is Thomas Jefferson next? And yes, Jefferson is a founding father. It's ironic that the tactics used by the German Nazis were exactly this. So when do the book burnings begin?

The America I know is large enough and strong enough to put up with the idiocy of the Nazis, KKK, Antifa, and BLM. Free speech applies to them all.

Moving statues is not the problem. This small group who think they know what's best for the entire country, and will do whatever it takes to achieve their goals, that is the problem.

Tucker Carlson knows exactly who the founding fathers are. And his comments are spot on.

Thank you. Excellent points.

 

What matters is what the art itself objectively represents, not whether it could offend someone. Robert E Lee himself was against confederate statues because he believed that we needed to move on from this conflict and heal our wounds. We shouldn't celebrate treason and racism with our art. Thats what the confederacy represents and it was a big bloody mistake that cost countless American lives and tore our nation apart. Its shouldn't be celebrated, Abe Lincoln should be celebrated.

 

Moving statues to a museum is not a slippery slope. And many were built as a form of racial intimidation, not to honor history.

But not big enough for a president who gives them aid and comfort and defends them as good people. Trump just spit on the graves of everyone who fought to defeat the nazis.

These were being removed by the democratically elected officials of those cities. Nazis from other States descended on Charlottesville to thwart the will of the people.

Then he shouldn't lie to create a false equivalency.

 

Sure it is. The Southern conservatives are making a defensive reaction in response to the progressive Marxists' threat to freedom of speech and association in the US. This is falling right into the Marxists' divisive game plan, and at least two posters on these Boards--I'm Not Oliver and Kode-- have, just in the past few days, begun openly justifying violence against anyone they claim is a "Nazi".

The above is, of course, a planned follow-up to the incessant claims against Trump, since he was elected, that he is a "Hitler". This Big Lie was fashioned, of course, to protect the vested interests that Trump ran against.

 

False

A local chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy paid for the removal of a monument to Confederate soldiers that stood in front of Alachua County Administration Building in downtown Gainesville for 113 years. The monument, known locally as “Old Joe,” was moved to a private cemetery outside the city, according to The Gainesville Sun.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/16/us/confederate-monuments-removed.html?mcubz=1

Beyond that, as I said, these were being removed by the democratically elected officials of those cities. Nazis from other States descended on Charlottesville to thwart the will of the people.

 

Well, if you refuse to see the Big Picture I certainly do not have the time or inclination to rewire you. Soros's money has done its deed, so sneakily that many of us now see it way too late.

 

To be honest, Soviet and Mexican flags flown on American soil make my blood boil. I laugh at Nazi flags. Confederate flags? I usually feel sorry for those people. They're wasting their time on foolishness.

 

I'm not seeing any slippery gradation between those who signed the Constitution, and those who took up arms to rebel against the USA. For me, the distinction couldn't be more clear and unambiguous.

What I'm finding ironic is your Nazi references, when the Neo-Nazis took the same position on Confederate statues as you have.

 

So you're against honoring anyone who took up arms against the USA? As I've asked in another thread, are you just as adamant about figures such as Cochise, Crazy Horse, Geronimo, Chief Joseph, Chief Seattle, Tecumseh? All of them acted against the United States. My position is consistent with regard to all of these historic figures, and I'll probably find your position more than a little ironic...

 

The "Brownshirts" are very difficult to defend, from a moral perspective--they were comprised of neo-Nazis, KKK members, and assorted white supremacists--but at least they had a permit to protest.

And it is my understanding that the professional leftists were bused in, from Washington, just to cause a conflict.

This is certainly not to suggest that the former group was pristine--and I have never believed in that old saying, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"--but in this particular case, it appears that the leftists were principally to blame.

At least, that is my understanding of the matter.

 

(1) To speak of Confederate soldiers as mere "traitors" is to ignore the historical context, viz.:

In the 1860s, America was simply a loose confederation of states--my understanding is that people then said, "the United States are," rather than "the United States is"--so Robert E. Lee felt that his primary loyalty was to the state of Virginia. (In fact, it is my understanding that he sometimes even spoke of Virginia--not America as a whole--as "my country.")

(2) The purpose of post-Civil War America was reconciliation, As PBS puts it:

"In 1865, Lee signed an amnesty oath, asking once again to become a citizen of the United States. He did so as an active encouragement for confederate soldiers to rejoin the United States."

Here is the link: Lee After The War | History Detectives | PBS

Note: The decade-long era of "Reconstruction" worked against this goal.

(3) The Founding Fathers will be next on the list, as most were slave owners--including James Madison.

 

Thank you! And it couldn't be better!

 

That's what they re going to do? Move them all? To which museums or whose private property?

 

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