Is there a Right to own a gun; Ethics of Gun Ownership

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by An Taibhse, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Hey! What about me? I don't want the right to marriage restricted. I also don't want the right to my guns restricted>
     
  2. Vegas giants

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    I do
     
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    I don't want the "right" to marriage to be restricted. You are lying and you know it. I've been consistent on every one of these threads.

    IF you presuppose that you have a "right" to get married, why do you apply for a license? You simply do not understand and probably think to highly of yourself to admit the facts. But, what the Hell, let's try:

    What is a marriage license?

    "the document that is executed by the public authority that gives a couple the permission to marry."

    https://thelawdictionary.org/marriage-license/

    Also see this:

    http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/marriagelicense.html

    If you have a Right, why do you ask for permission? And, did you also know, that by asking permission, that is a de facto admission on your part that the government had authority over you all the time on the issue you asked permission for?

    As you can clearly see, I do not advocate for licenses nor permits. In reality, when you get married and do not ask their permission, they withhold the benefits and privileges of your 14th Amendment subject status. So, most people, wanting the goodies that go with a "legal" marriage
    (adding your spouse to your insurance as an example) go the government route.

    Those who understand the issue and opt for marriage as a "Right" are, as a group, less likely to get involved in acts like misusing a firearm.

    Any side road you choose to go down to avoid the facts will not help your cause.
     
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    NOBODY can twist your arm and force you to apply for a license to get married.

    Either you believe in RIGHTS or you don't.
     
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    So marriage is not a right? Scotus disagrees
     
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    Or force you to apply for a license to carry a gun
     
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    IF you have the Right, why do you apply for permission? Nobody twists your arm and requires you to get a license. But, when you do you are bound by the civil agreement the state conned you into. READ THE LINKS I LEFT IN EARLIER POSTS. Deflection is making you look like you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about.
     
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    Do I as a citizen have the right to leave the country and then return?
     
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    And, as I told you, I do not seek permission to carry a firearm. You're like a rodent on a treadmill. My earlier response suggesting people who seek a marriage license get pre-marital counseling. To be blunt, anybody stupid enough to forfeit their Rights and apply for a license deserves to have their hand held by a government God so that they don't harm themselves.

    Not every adult needs a babysitter.
     
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    Don't try to leave the country and return. LOL
     
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    WTF? Did you run out of arguing points do you want to go down yet another rabbit hole?

    When you can explain what possible connection that has to gun ownership, I'll give you an answer.
     
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    Its a simple question. It must be very scary though
     
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    It's damn sure not scary to me. People come in and out of this country every day. Walls, fences, and ninja clad JBTs would only have minimal effect.

    Look, you and I understand what you're trying to do. Since you have NO argument against unalienable Rights, you have to find that ***** in the armor to vindicate yourself. The problem is, I've had to do this crap for approximately four decades.

    I doubt that there is a legal argument nor ploy on either side of the fence that I haven't observed at the least - and sometimes been a part of in one way or another. I saw over twenty five attempts made by people to circumvent paying the illegal income tax. The media will tell you all about those who failed; the one theory of law that got tested and worked is ignored.

    We may as well talk about that since you want to find a way the pro-gun side here will not want to associate with me. Divide and conquer. I don't like you, but I respect you. OTOH, you can try all you want, you cannot take me. That's a fact. When the facts, the history and the intent of the founders come into play, unlike the people on the left or the right, I go with what the people wanted when they supported ratification of the United States Constitution. Most of the time, that puts me on the right, and when it don't, I can count on you to play divide and conquer.

    NO, THE RIGHT DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME ON IMMIGRATION, BUT I'M NOT FOR MAKING CITIZENS OUT OF EVERY PERSON WHO WASHES UP ON OUR SHORES.

    I'm damn well not afraid of anything you got, just quit being so cowardly and trying to come up with irrelevant B.S. to hide the fact that you have no factual basis upon which to attack the Second Amendment.
     
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    That's nice. But don't answer the question. Its very scary. LOL
     
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    And you are not due an answer. What are YOU hiding?
     
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    Remember that when you ask a question. LOL
     
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    SEE POST 686 - LATER DUDE
     
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    Who has ever advocated forcing anyone to apply for a license to carry a gun ?

    A Right does not have to be exercised if it is found objectionable.
     
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    Have a great night! LOL
     
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    If it's relevant to the OP and you fail to respond, that's on you. You failed to show relevancy of your question to the OP. If you don't respond to me, I won't fret and let it screw up my day like you do.
     
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    Gosh my question must be so scary. Everyone can see it. Ok. Good night. LOL
     
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    Quaking in my boots (NOT)
     
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    Still not answering though. LOL
     
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    Yes, you do.

    And if your Passport was stolen or destroyed, they will simply verify your identity and let you back into the Country anyway.

    They do not leave you in Immigration limbo simply because you do not have your physical Passport on your person.
     
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    But if you never applied for a passport they may hold you quite some time
     
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