Is There Any Such Thing As An Atheist?

It will certainly be easier to pretend atheists don't exist if you put us all on ignore. Smart idea!

 

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm only trying to explain my worldview and understand what your worldview is. Debates rarely result in people being convinced of anything.

This verse assumes the Christian God is real in the first place. Its only persuasive to someone who already believes it.

I'm not going to try to prove it isn't true. I'm only trying to ask how you know it is true.

These verses all assume Christianity is true in the first place so obviously your arguments only work on Christians. But I will go through them assuming the bible is true and see if they say what you claim they say.

The problem is that people often don't believe even when the facts are plain to see. For example, there are many communists even when there is a lot of evidence communism is a failure. Humans are often irrational and misinformed. So just because the facts are plain to see doesn't mean everyone will have the right opinion. You still find many people who don't believe good arguments and have their own flawed ideas.

And the design argument has some counter-arguments that are very believable. For example, the theory of evolution shows life evolving through natural processes and we have a lot of fossils showing it. There is the natural selection selection and mutations argument that shows that natural processes can make complex things. Even if these turn out to be wrong, most scientists find them very believable and you need to respect that many people have other views.

This verse only shows that people understand God's laws instinctively but not that they believe he exists intellectually.

Just because the heaven's declare the glory of God doesn't mean people are listening to the heavens or even getting that at all.

I don't even know what this verse even means. "Eternity in the human heart" doesn't mean people believe God exists.

No, this verse is just saying that people are suppressing the truth but doesn't claim they believe the truth they are suppressing. For example, communists suppress western ideas, but a lot of communists suppress it because they actually hate western ideas and don't want people to believe in them.

Remember Descartes argument:
I think therefore I am.

This is a powerful argument that you can know you exist by the evidence of that you are aware of yourself and this isn't possible without existing.

In the same way, I know I don't believe in God, so I know atheists are real and that your interpretation of these verses are wrong. Obviously you aren't me, but this argument convinces me because it is self-evident to me and millions of other atheists. I know that I didn't become an atheist just do I can be a hedonist. In fact I live a pretty boring family life and would prefer to believe that I go to heaven after I die and that life has a purpose.

 

I am reasonably certain that we will live out our lives knowing contradictory things.
I will continue to present what I believe to be true, and so will you and so will most
everybody else.

JAG

 

No you won't. Because you don't exist. A book told us so.

 

I'm very certain that your interpretations of the bible are wrong. You wrongly assume that just because something is obvious that 100% of the population will believe in it. There is literally nothing that 100% of people agree on, no matter how much evidence it has. Thats just how people are.

 

I am very certain that my interpretations are not wrong.
You can hold your views and I can hold my views on this issue.
You are not going to make me like you.
I am not going to make you like me.
If you agree with my posts then you become like me on this issue.
If I agree with your posts then I become like you on this issue.
That is never going to happen.
Never.
You will stay you.
I will stay me.

JAG