Is there ever a time when personal liberties should be suspended?

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  1. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    You are mistaking me for someone who lives in the UK and who "defends it" whatever the issue.
    and I don't think Texas, home of endless energy, is a fair example of a viable alternative for those who are not geographically as blessed.
    The UK was for a while in Texas' position...North Sea oil and gas was a promise of cheap available energy so investment went into other things. Non oil based energy production in Europe now is around wind, wave and solar production and is finding its feet, particularly since the climate IS changing. Europe would be delighted to be able to wean itself off oil based energy which comes from unstable business partners.
    I merely wished to alert you that your energy issues are not specifically some dastardly plot by democrats. The affect the whole world. You aren't special.
     
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    Your commentary inferred that you were English. If not, no worries. I think you've simply washed your hands of your own commentary then. You've dropped climate emergency, you dropped dependent folks, mostly. So what is your narrative now? You believe folks can, or should give up their rights? And why again? Hard to know given this response.

    Suffice it to say, Yes, I can document the interference by democrats who produce energy issues where none really should exist in this country. Second, US energy is still being exported, in abundance to other nations. Or didn't you know that? We don't think we are special. We think we are right. Our defense then our our inalienable rights it what helps us to achieve. Something the world seems to have take for granted.
     
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    Once again, I am not in Britain. I do not answer for it. I chose to move out of it 20 years ago.
    As for the climate, I run with "better be safe than sorry" and that there is much that needs to be "cleaned up" and improved in its name. Whether it is temporary or permanent, I don't really care. I do appreciate cleaner air, better energy production, using less raw materials, and supplying goods from closer rather than more distant places. Less transport, less wastage, fewer garbage tips, less plastic in the oceans and less construction on open sites. IMO it all just makes a more pleasant planet.
    ON a more serious note, temporary or not, climate change is going to bring some serious demographic changes . Temperatures today in Australia reached just over 50° C. Years of crop failure in the Southern Hemisphere has fueled migration and/or starvation. I don't care what the reasons for it are or whether they are permanent...the issues are there and must be dealt with.
     
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    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    I am not offering any suggestion.
    I asked YOU what you would do.
    I merely acted as a foil to replies.
     
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    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    That sounds pretty self indulgently special to me by dint of the fact that you assume other places don't do the same.
     
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    I asked you what your reaction would be.
    I could ask the same question from any location. Every place on earth that enjoys freedoms can ask the same question. It is a generic personal issue that anyone from anywhere can ask and reply.
    You seem to be able to respond only from the POV of your own geographical position and political opinion. There are many other viable places and opinions with many of the same basic frameworks which you perhaps could take into account and give due respect to.

    Must run...choir practise tonight.
     

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