Is there now justifiable hope of enacting sensible gun law?

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  1. Lesh

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    Sorry you seem not to have read the thread or not understood what you read.

    That was the claim your friends made
     
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    So which is it - are we a violent nation, or aren't we?
     
  3. Lesh

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    Ask your friends...it was their claim. Why ask me when I never made that claim?
     
  4. truth and justice

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    Tog and his "friends" are continually contradicting themselves which would be funny if not so sad. I particularly liked one of their statements calling someone a fool for doing a particular action not realizing that a few of them said they did it. I won't embarrass anyone by posting those quotes
     
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    Answer the question that as actually presented. Exactly where is the line drawn in the "do anything possible" approach that is being discussed?
     
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    Arguing in support of similar positions, or rather not in opposition of certain courses of action, does not actually constitute being friends.

    If those who supported greater firearm-related restrictions were capable of a more comprehensive delivery, based more on logic rather than feelings, and devoid of utilizing dehumanizing terms when addressing opposition, they would have the support of myself instead. But such is not being done. Terms like "ammosexuals" and "gun huggers" do not convey a sense of occupying the factual high ground in a discussion.
     
  7. Lesh

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    But you have no objection to terms like "gun grabbers".

    Oh...
     
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    No, there is not hope of more gun laws. Americans recognize the tactic of the gun control leadership to 'pick away' at gun rights one small law at a time until we have UK and Australia style controls that effectively nullify the 2A... mainly due to the gun control leadership having stated this goal publicly.

    If you want a chance at new laws, you're going to have to exchange them for some of the old ones. Perhaps, in the interest of compromise, you would like to suggest a trade? I would recommend legalizing suppressors and short barreled rifles, given that these are already available with a $200 tax stamp. What say you? Suppressors and SBRs in exchange for full auto mods? Something else? Are you willing to deal?
     
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  9. Natty Bumpo

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    For Americans, reducing the inordinate level of firearm fatalities is not a matter of bargaining. It's a matter of legislating and enforcing practical measures to protect themselves and their loved ones, both avid gun fanciers and those for whom guns have no mystique whatsoever, whilst not infringing the right of lawful Americans to access their guns.

    No other advanced nation endures such a rate of death by firearms, and there is no reason that Americans should surrender to it.
     
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    So you wont compromise.

    Then neither shall we.

    No more gun laws for you :)
     
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    Good to see you fully understand whatever your answer is, it undermines your position.
    Smart of your to avoid it.
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    I'm not authorized to "compromise" regarding legislative measures to reduce the level of firearm fatalities in America.

    That would seem to be in the interests of all patriotic Americans.
     
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    Obviously you're not authorized. The point is that none of you 'sensible regulations' types will compromise in the slightest. There is no give/take to get something that we can all agree on, as is common in politics. Its either your way or we're the bad guys.

    Thats why you cant make any progress.

    Thats why everyone knows the REAL agenda- abolish the 2A one law at a time.
     
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