Is this the real thing? Obama's Original Birth Certificate, Mombasa , Kenya!

Dear friends,

Please help me confirm if this latest information about Obama's true birth certificate from the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya is correct.

No arm waving please. Let's deal in facts this time; not silly, senseless name calling and excited utterances and hysterics expressed by the ardent and very vocal Obama supporters.

By the way, I did a search of Snoops.com and nothing there has shown up about this document.

 

The latest information?

This is years old. It is the product of convicted forger and career felon Lucas Smith, and was originally created by him as part of an eBay scam that went terribly awry.

The most significant tip-off that it is a fake is that it names the wrong person as Chief Administrator of Coast Province General Hospital (and also misspells his name). The CA at the time this certificate was allegedly produced was Jennifer Othigo, not Heltan (note the spelling) Maganga.

Dr. Maganga himself has written in response to emails from Birthers that the certificate is a fake.

 

Not so fast.Many obvious questions would have to be ascertained.
Like What would a Pregnant Ann Dunham have been doing in Kenya.?
Is there proof as to where she lived prior to the Hospital birth.?
In short things would have to make sense first.

 

Gee I dunno now.The fact that you rush in here and debunk every
aspect of this means,you were awfully prepared.
What other stuff are you prepared to be both Judge and Jury.

 

I don't think of it like that.

 

Okay several issues here:

a) This is not a current issue- this BC was being peddled on the internet over 2 years ago. Where did you find it James? What current event do you think this is? Why did you claim this is the 'latest' information?

b) The moderators merged all such Birther threads into one thread- why are you ignoring the moderators clear directions?

c) Lucas Smith- the author mentioned below- is a convicted forgerer. Let me just take a moment that the comparison:

Hawaii: Director of Health confirms Hawaiian birth certificate is genuine
Lucas Smith: convicted forgerer produces a Kenyan BC.

yet you want to believe Lucas Smith.....which makes me go hmmmmmmmm

d) Lucas Smith first attempted to sell the birth certificate on e-bay, because of course, that is the best method of sharing the truth with the world.

e) Lucas Smith has not shown the original to anyone. All anyone has seen is the image he is peddling on the internet. He refuses to show it to anyone.

f) Your claim: "By the way, I did a search of Snoops.com and nothing there has shown up about this document."

But that is a lie- isn't it James?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

How do I know its a lie James?

Because all it took for me to find it on Snopes was to type "Lucas Smith" and it came up instantly. So you either lied about searching Snopes- or you attempted fool people by calling is Snoops.com, or you lied about what you found.

So to recap:
a) you lied about this being a current issue.
b) you lied about this not being on Snopes
c) you are promoting a convicted forgerer's product.

Three stars James.

Impressive even by your usual standards.

 

Well we have been asking that of Birthers for quite some time.

Why would a Pregnant Ann Dunham travel from Hawaii to Kenya to give birth?

Her husband's father was antagonistic to her marriage, her parents doted upon her- why would she leave everything behind to travel to a place that had just had a very bloody civil war end- to give birth?
Birthers best answer- "its possible she could have".

This is a Birther claim. Since when have any Birther claims made any sense- first or last?

 

This is more than lame.. Mombasa is over 1000 miles from where Obama's step grandmother lived and still lives..

And Mombasa didn't have an international airport until 1979.

 

Wong knew this stuff because Birthers like yourself trot this out every few months, it gets thoroughly debunked again- and then a few months later one of you hauls it out of storage again.

We have it memorized.

Birthers- the ultimate recyclers. No matter how often we take out the trash, they keep hauling it back from the dump yard.

 

Barak is a Jewish name.
Ref: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2501-barak


So the reference of the Muslim with the Jewish name would be akin to someone name Joshua bin Ladin.

 

In 1961 it took four days to fly from Kenya to Hawaii.. with a 10 hour layover in Frankfurt or Rome or London.

 

Its too silly for words.. Mombasa had no international airport until 1979.. It would have taken days to fly to Hawaii.

 

Haha!

You are right Margot! Let's see the birtherbots refudiate that one!

5 stars for you!

 

It was a real journey back in 1961.. Generally you spent an over night in Europe somewhere and then another overnight in NYC.. and I was only flying from NYC to Birmingham .. Not across country and then to Hawaii.

It would have been a brutal trip for a pregnant woman or a newborn.

 

Impressive...

No response from JC, and the rest of the birthers immediately shut the hell up...

Well done, folks...

 

I don't think he really believes this tripe..... I think he's playing games.

 

And of course, Cessna, like all great poop slingers, throws the crap against the front page of Current Events to see what sticks, and then abandons the thread to go create 12 others. I'm sorry if I'm insulting him, but I can't tell you how ridiculous it is every single day to see 10-12 "Cessna" threads like this on the front page of CE. It truly makes me want to go find another forum. Are insults the only thing that gets regulated around here? What about conspiracy theory spam? Can we not create an entire sub forum for him inside Conspiracy Theories, so that we don't have to read this crap anymore? Seriously.

Of course, where is he to defend the craziness of the OP? Off creating 16 more of these I'm sure. Very frustrating.

 

there is nothing more sad and embarrassing then being a Birther.

I pity the fools.

 

Every village has an idiot!

Hopefully, he wants Obama re-elected, because that is what these people are accomplishing.

 

Lol... this again?

Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar when Obama was born, not the British Protectorate of East Africa.

Dates in American style (MM/DD/YY) not British DD/MM/YY.

 

Speaking of " inane " I purposedly used that word today as a bellwether.
Because it was once THE most used word by Liberals.Like Code.
As if it somehow does the same as drinking the Kool-aid.

 

Snoops.com? Lol...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

There ya go.

 

I think it is hilarious, pathetic and very telling that the birthers are willing to accept all the obvious Kenyan BC forgeries but refuse to accept the documents issued and verified by the state of Hawaii.

What a bunch of lame idiots.

 

I'll bank on this one.