Is Tony Ornato, the SS guy denying Hutchinson testimony, a liar?

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  1. Hey Now

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    ETTD!!! Amazing how this is a self fulfilling prophecy. Rick Wilson wrote a book :D, available on Amazon.
     
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    The dog and pony show was produced by a professional. They don't leave anything to chance. The only thing missing from the stage are teleprompters for the witnesses.
     
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    Personally, I believe her that she was told this but thought he was trying to impress her with "puffery".
     
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    clinton's detail testified in the lewinsky affair. also, whatever justice dept memo protected trump during his presidency did not help clinton.
     
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  5. Gateman_Wen

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    Lol, I'm only telling you what I see.

    And I'm not the only one to see it.
     
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    You sound pretty desperate.

    See? I can throw crap at the wall too
     
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    By agreeing with your point that a show trial/witch hunt is not real trial?
     
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    So, if Hutchinson didn't actually hear what she says she heard -- is she a liar? Is that tough question?

    Think carefully. Consult your hornbooks. ;-)

    hearsay rule

    Hearsay rule is the rule prohibiting hearsay (out of court statements offered as proof of that statement) from being admitted as evidence because of the inability of the other party to cross-examine the maker of the statement.” LEGAL INFORMATION INSTITUTE, Cornell Law School, hearsay rule.
     
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    The "professionals" who created “Joanie Loves Chachi” could have done a better job.
     
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    But but but.. it is not a court. The rules are made up by Pelosi and her minions and she can pick what rules and witnesses are put on the big screen show to put the seed of doubt in the public mind ……. This will be the scream of the left through Nov election…
    and it has already started with the Hutchinson testimony that her testimony is rock solid and not to be questioned… as she testified as a 3rd hand hearsay witness…. If hearsay testimony is not allowed in court shirley 3rd hand would not either… look back at the impeachment…. The same thing… 2nd and 3rd hand hearsay with only 1 st hand that even he was “supposing”
     
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    You are only seeing what you are shown. They will never show you the exculpatory side..
     
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    That's nice. Does it make you feel better?
     
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    Is that really what you got outta my post?

    Maybe you should read it again? Or get someone to explain it to you?
     
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    A simple "yes" would have sufficed.
     
  15. Ddyad

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    I just read it again. "This isn't a trial." Gateman_Wen.

    What am I supposed to have missed -- something about the definition of "isn't"? ;-)
     
  16. Ddyad

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    I asked you: "So, if Hutchinson didn't actually hear what she says she heard -- is she a liar? Is that tough question?" Take all the time you need. :)
     
  17. Patricio Da Silva

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    It was article !! of the articles of impeachment "Obstruction Of Congress".

    https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres755/BILLS-116hres755enr.pdf

    That he was acquitted doesn't prove he didn't do it, it just means the Republicans didn't want democrats kicking Trump out of office.

    The fact is he did to it, in plain sight, and on TV. The above quote was from a TV interview with reporters.

    “We’re fighting all the subpoenas,” Mr. Trump told reporters outside the White House. “These aren’t, like, impartial people. The Democrats are trying to win 2020.”

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6572316/Articles-of-Impeachment.pdf

    \Donald J. Trump has directed the unprecedented, categorical, and indiscriminate defiance of subpoenas issued by the House of Representatives pursuant to its “sole Power of Impeachment”. President Trump has abused the powers of the Presidency in a manner offensive to, and subversive of, the Constitution ….

     
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  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Some people on this forum have a confusion as to the nature of congressional hearings, so I provided some background information.
     
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    The last house I bought was owned by a guy on Clinton's SS detail. Of course they talk about their jobs. Everybody talks about their jobs outside the office because most people hate their jobs. That's what bars are for. ;-) We should start to worry when bartenders start talking. LOL
     
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  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    I saw that but the vid wasn't clear. It's already been established it was an SUV, not the Beast. Ornato either got that wrong and told her 'the beast' or Hutchinson assumed it was, though it wasn't.
     
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    I'ts not a rant.


    People are claiming "Ornato says Hutchinson lied'.

    That is not a true statement. All we have are news reporting that says 'sources close to Ornato say that Ornato said.."

    Moreover, Hutchinson testified to Congress under oath under pain of perjury on national television, knowing damn well her former boss, whom she used to think very highly of, is going to try in discredit her and impugn her in the most vile, immature, way possible, as he always does to people who blow the whistle on him.

    Additionally, I provided the opinions of two women , Republicans who were former Trump operatives, who claimed Ornato had lied before.

    That challenges the notion that Ornato's word is unimpeachable, Moreover , it established that, at the minimum, Ornato must testify under oath, as well.

    That's not a rant, that's a merit worthy argument.
     
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    Ornato was elevated to Deputy Chief Of Staff, a political job.
     
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    i don't know if she said what car it was. "the beast" thing seems to come from the same geniuses who spread most of the disinformation.

    l can see some action in the car but would never swear it was trump's huge manly hands grabbing someone. .
     
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    Cassidy is not an eyewitness.

    No eye witness has made the claim which Cassidy claims she heard from Ornato, but, according to you, Ornato is a liar. So why would you believe the claims of a liar?

    Brit Hume: "I’ve covered Washington for more than 50 years, including 11 years covering Congress specifically. I’ve never seen a committee all of whose members were chosen by one party, and where there is no cross-examination or any attempt to present both sides."

    No one has.

    "Being “serious about their representation” is a lovely euphemism for being allowed to appoint only members acceptable to Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats."

    Rigged hearing, rigged outcome, rigged conclusions.

    Byron York: "There's a long tradition of adversarial process in congressional hearings/investigations. You don't have to compare it to a trial to know something is wrong with the J6 committee." https://twitter.com/MBryanHickman/status/1542880886466547712

    It's yet another witch-hunt by the Committee that is solely appointed by Democrats.

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  25. Patricio Da Silva

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    Story has been confirmed, anyway.
     

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