Dismiss Notice
Thanks for being a member of our community. Please donate toward site expenses if you can.

Is Trump capable of apologizing to Obama?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Natty Bumpo, Mar 20, 2017.

?

Is Trump capable of apologizing to Obama?

  1. Yes, when he's wrong, he's big enough to admit it.

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%

  2. No, he can never admit to being wrong.

    14 vote(s)
    87.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
Page 2 of 5
  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Obama never apologized to the family of the dead SEALs that he told were killed because of a youtube movie (which the family confirmed he and Hillary said). Then the facts came out.

    Why should Trump apologize? Obama did enough apologizing for the next few Presidents when he did his overseas apology tour "on behalf of the United States"
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #26
    SeaFury likes this.
  2. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    From the article:

    I won't spin anything here other than to say that even this unsubstantiated report does not reference Obama, which was the basis of your accusation. I would also note that the recommendation, if true, seems quite reasonable.
     
    MrTLegal, Mar 21, 2017
    #27
    Sallyally likes this.
  3. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2014
    Messages:
    17,608
    Likes Received:
    2,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well at least you admit you are spinning so that is progress.
     
    Deckel, Mar 21, 2017
    #28
  4. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you really and truly believe that Obama never apologized to the family? Or just that Obama never apologized for citing the youtube video as a motivating factor for some terrorists in the area?
     
    MrTLegal, Mar 21, 2017
    #29
    Derideo_Te and Sallyally like this.
  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This was the family's biggest complaint. That he didn't apologize. They went on all those talk shows back in like '12 and '13
     
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #30
  6. Wen

    Wen Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Female
    You're right Natty Bumpo but many people do the same against Trump and his family.
    I've heard some say her wife was an escort...but they have no evidence for that.
    They couldn't prove anything :dunno:
     
    Wen, Mar 21, 2017
    #31
  7. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Natty probably said those things. He's very anti-first lady
     
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #32
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,860
    Likes Received:
    27,383
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I recall that rag the Daily Mail published that claim and got into hot water for it.

    Basic problem I see is that too many people believe what they read or hear without a modicum of skepticism, usually depending on their personal views and how well what they're hearing fits with them.
     
    Durandal, Mar 21, 2017
    #33
    Wen likes this.
  9. stepmac

    stepmac Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    Won't happen. It doesn't need to. Obama is an afterthought, a faint illusion, a figment of our past.
     
    stepmac, Mar 21, 2017
    #34
  10. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Diversion. Does not address the topic of this poll.

    If one falsely accuses another of a felony, calls him "bad" or "sick", evokes "McCarthyism" and "Watergate", and then no one, including oneself, can offer any evidence to substantiate one's false accusation, such behaviour is considered appropriate, responsible, mature, normal, and indicative of common decency.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #35
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  11. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Any person who made a false accusation concerning a Trump wife owes her an apology if he cannot support his accusation with credible evidence.

    That person bears the same moral obligation as does Trump, but whether he honours his responsibility has no bearing upon Trump honouring his.
     
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #36
    Derideo_Te, Wen and Sadanie like this.
  12. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's not "diversion". It's a direct comparison with the exact same scenario :)
     
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #37
  13. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    False. It's a disparate allegation that in no way addresses the poll's topic.

    Nor does your allegation impact the issue: whether Trump is capable of apologizing for making this false accusation.

    Your attempt at diversion is not a viable strategy to fulfill your desire to avoid confronting the question.
     
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #38
  14. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So would you like a President to apologize after they lie?
     
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #39
  15. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whether I like presidents to be able to speak Urdu is also a possible diversion, but this poll concerns whether Trump should apologize to Obama if he is ever temperamentally capable of admitting to being wrong.

    Your desperation to avoid honestly answering the poll's question is an answer in itself.
     
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #40
  16. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Haha that must be a tough question for you to ask.

    Let's summarize: You want Trump to admit he life, but you did not want Obama to admit he lied.

    Thank you for clearing this up for us
     
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #41
  17. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, it's a very easy and direct question to ask.

    What appears to be tough is for you to honestly confront and answer it:

    Is Trump capable of apologizing to Obama?
    1. Yes, when he's wrong, he's big enough to admit it.
    2. No, he can never admit to being wrong.
     
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #42
  18. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well why should Trump apologize to Obama? When Obama lied, he did not apologize. Shouldn't Trump follow Obama's footsteps when being caught in a lie? Or are you saying Trump should be the bigger man?
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
    ArmySoldier, Mar 21, 2017
    #43
  19. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    13,701
    Likes Received:
    1,585
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When it is politically expedient yes, else no.
     
    robini123, Mar 21, 2017
    #44
  20. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why would Trump apologize, it isn't his fault he makes Obama look so bad...
     
    Dispondent, Mar 21, 2017
    #45
  21. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Cut of Trumpery follows their messiah's pathological denial, but what is far more important is whether Trump is temperamentally incapable of honestly taking responsibility for his lie, and admitting to fallibility. That is a matter that could seriously damage the nation.

    [​IMG]
    "Oh yeah! Well, Warren G Harding had a mistress!
    Why don't the fake media, the fake intelligence services,
    fake law enforcement agencies, fake senators, fake representatives,
    and those fake British get righteous about that, huh?"​
     
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #46
    Derideo_Te and Sallyally like this.
  22. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is of legitimate concern to the nation is that the lies and/or paranoid delusions ("thousands of thousands" of invisible folks cheering terrorism in NJ, "millions" of phantom voters all casting ballots against him, a media conspiracy that persecutes him, imaginary wiretaps, etc.) will render him a national liability. International allies, US intelligence agencies, congress, the courts, the American people will conclude he is temperamentally unstable. If his delusional episodes persist and he in unable to confront them, they will only accumulate and his tenuous connection with reality will reach critical mass at some point.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2017
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #47
    Derideo_Te and Sallyally like this.
  23. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,881
    Likes Received:
    28,337
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I'm afraid that now you'll be cited as the source of"Obama created the Ebola virus".
     
    Sallyally, Mar 21, 2017
    #48
  24. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2012
    Messages:
    41,734
    Likes Received:
    15,057
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Alibi: I was cruisin' Beale Street with the King at the time...
    [​IMG]
    ​
    ... and I don't care what US intelligence services, law enforcement, senators, congressmen, and the British government might say about it!​
     
    Natty Bumpo, Mar 21, 2017
    #49
    Derideo_Te and Sallyally like this.
  25. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    15,881
    Likes Received:
    28,337
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Ha ha.
     
    Sallyally, Mar 21, 2017
    #50
Page 2 of 5

Share This Page