Is Trump doing exactly what Putin wants him to do?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Sep 9, 2019.

  1. Kal'Stang

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    According to leftist media and polling stations. Remember, the Media had Trump loosing by 90%-98%. While yes, Trump lost the popular vote that much of a "win" for Hillary based on popular vote should have been a far larger popular vote win by her than a measly 2%.

    Unilaterally? You do know that several Past Presidents promised Israel that they would do just what Trump actually did right? Trump simply kept the promise. As for the Arab republics not trusting Trump...they haven't trusted ANY President so that's a big whoop de doo my book. No one cares about France. As for GB, don't care.

    I for one am glad Trump removed us from the PA. It was garbage.

    1: Prove that Trump removed the US from the JCPOA because it was signed by Obama. You can't of course. That's nothing more than a political talking point.

    2: The JPCOA did not permanently bar Iran from making a nuke. At BEST it simply slowed it. Most of the stipulations in it had sunset clauses. It also prohibited inspectors from inspecting all but known areas were nuclear plants were known to be unless they had a high suspicion of Iran processing nuclear material...and even then their entrance could ultimately be denied by Irans military leaders. Which was a concession Obama made in order to get the deal signed in the first place because Iran's military leaders damn near revolted.

    Lucrative for who exactly? It was hurting the US. And I've said that long before Trump even entered the stage the first time against Obama in 2008.

    I don't pay much attention to the G7 summits. However if you think that making other NATO countries live up to their end of the bargain is weakening it then I don't know what to tell ya.

    Due to Trumps tweets? That's debatable. As for it "treading water", what...did you really expect the upward trend to always go up?

    Which it was. It was old and outdated, but at the time it was made it was accurate. That has been shown time and time again.

    As for Trumps mental acuity...all I can do is roll my eyes. That has been going on since before Trump was elected. Another leftist talking point that is not grounded on anything more substantial than feelings.

    Serious doubts? By who exactly? Those with axes to grind? Pfft.
     
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  2. jdog

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    On what basis?
     
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    Yes Republicans are mostly leftest. You do not understand the real political spectrum.
     
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    Wealth redistribution? Are you kidding me? In a robust economy fortunes are made and lost every day... You still have to pay your taxes.
     
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    Why?
     
  6. Lesh

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    Huh?

    Reagan was a "leftist"?

    Please...Putin pays you for better than that
     
  7. Chester_Murphy

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    Yes, him, Puttin' and Ill Jonga kim are working together to overthrow China's oppression and theft of scientific knowledge from high tech companies in California and United States university professors.
     
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    Do you even really understand what the political spectrum is?
     
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    Don't believe me? Just ask me.
     
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    CNN reports, "Saudi Arabia recovered fully intact circuit boards from one of the weapons used in the attack on Saudi Arabia’s oil facilities, according to a US official with direct knowledge of the latest information.

    "Both drones and cruise missiles were used in the attack. The official added that the Saudis and the US expect to be able to trace to Iran for the point of origin of those boards and possible flight data.

    "The official told CNN that the weapon recovered was one of the missiles that missed its target completely and landed in the desert intact. That is where circuit board was retrieved.

    "The official pointed out the attack was sophisticated, specifically designed for plausible deniability by virtue of the route the missiles took. It also was a route that avoided the areas where the US has highest concentration of US intel assets that might have detected the flight."

    The bottom line: The serious risks of a heightened military standoff with Iran call for a well-developed strategy from a White House not known for its orderly policymaking.

    Joel Rubin is the president of the Washington Strategy Group and a former deputy assistant secretary of state.

    A war with Iran will make the Iraq war seem like a walk in the park. Nearly 5,000 Americans were killed in Iraq, nearly 25,000 wounded, an estimated one million Iraqis were killed, and the war lasted eight years at a cost of $2.4trillion. Sixteen years later, our troops are still in Iraq fighting the enemy.

    Where is our President? Out west, campaigning for reelection.

    Putin is loving it!
     
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    What does that have to do with what was being discussed?
     
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    jdog is a friend of Russia and a Trump supporter. He is trying to change the subject. This thread is not about Reagan. It is about Trump and his mentor, Vladimir Putin.

    jdog doesn't want us talking about that.
     
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    The attack was most likely either a Saudi Arabia or Israel false flag in order to involve the US in a war against a country we have no reason to be at war with.
    It is not Russia which is a threat to our national security, it is Israel, which is using us like a nation of idiots to do their bidding.
    If we go to war with Iran it will be because our foreign policy is being dictated by Israel,
     
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    If Putin had regard for Trump would the Russian news outlets constantly mock him?
     
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    You mean shooting down drones or seizing oil tankers?
     
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    jdog is mimicking Trump and the Trumpets. They call liberals socialists.

    This thread is about Trump doing what Putin wants him to do and there have been several examples. The Trump fan, jdog, wishes to distract.
     
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    Well, its lame.
     
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    Sandy Shanks is suffering from delusions. She is apparently convinced there is some sort of conspiracy between Trump and Putin. I mean after all it makes perfect sense, that is why Trump has crippling sanctions on Russia and withdrew from the INF treaty, because he is in their pocket.

    Her posts belong in the foil hat section of this forum.. Meanwhile Israel is about to get us into a major war to further their agenda in the Middle East.
     
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    I don't claim to be able to read Putin's mind nor can figure out what it has to do with what I had posted.
     
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    Liberals are socialists, that is a fact. It is undeniable, They are also intellectually dishonest, especially on this subject. The fact is that relations between the US and Russia are far worse under Trump than they were under Obama. In fact the Obama administration signed off on a deal allowing a Russian company to purchase a mine that supplied 20% of the United States uranium supply which is a National Security concern, and yet you do not see me accusing Obama of doing Putin's bidding or being an agent of Russia. I really do not think liberals want to go down this road, because I will be able to make you look awfully bad on this subject.
     
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    They found the circuit boards? So, China is now proven to be complicit in the attack?
     
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    Pure nonsense....
     
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    Said by a poster who claims that Reagan was a leftist.
    Oh...
     

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