ISIS has come to implement Islam, by the book,

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    1. The Army of God.
    2. Eastern Lightning, a.k.a.
    3. The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA)
    4. The National Liberation Front of Tripura.
    5. The Phineas Priesthood.
    6. Concerned Chtistians
    None of these are recognized by any Christian church.
    Calling your group Christian. doesn't make it Christian.
     
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    Westboro was by the book too. In fact, there is almost nothing that can be done that isn't "by the book" when it comes to the bible or the koran. It isn't science, there is no way to distinguish bad from good in these ideologies.
     
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    It’s easier for the lazy mind to vote for trump and deny science too, while blaming single entities for our mistakes. Terrorism in the US from Islam is directly traceable to our support of SA which has notoriously supported terrorism for decades.
    Invading Iraq and creating ISIS has a lot to do with using religious revenge by ISIS...dah. . Lazy minds just want to play the blame game. I put more blame on Dick Chaney then moderate American Muslim doctors of which there are 20, 000 now working in the US. Are you blaming them now too.
     
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    Calling yourself a Muslim jihadist does not make you represent moderates either. You going to ship out the 20000 Muslim doctors now working in the US ?
     
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    You have no idea what you are talking about.
    Why are you even here.


    And yes, you have a very lazy mind.
     
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    The "Sufis" take the Koran as it should be taken; as metaphor for the inner person and managing the self. Of course, any religion can be 'taken' that way and it would probably have a positive effect upon an intelligent person's life.
    It is somewhat surprising that Buddhism has not become more popular in the 'west'.
     
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    Seems like I’m countering your ideas blaming all Muslims for the extremists. What are you doing here ?
     
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    No, it's practically a different religion with a lot of mysticism that's just kind of veiled in the form of Islam. There are even many muslims who say that (which is why Sufis are not safe in some parts of the Middle East, hardline muslims accuse them of bastardizing the religion and blasphemy).
     
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    No, that is not correct.

    the Sufi's do not use the Sunna, and the teachings of Muhammed.

    The sufi are hanging on to Zoroastrianism more than Islam.
     
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    There are 150 different sects of Muslims like there are different sects of Christians. You don’t want to put terrorist activities by Christians in the same group, why Muslims.
     
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    That is correct. changing Islam is the reason all the sects are killing each other.

    and sufi were targeted a lot.
     
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    ironically sufi is the only one not targeting the others.
     
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    NO, sufi has had their problems.
     
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    How much ignorance!
    Sunni and Shiite are practically the same, practically the only religious difference is one celebrates a certain holiday on the day before the other one, and also arguments about a line of succession which is a completely moot point because all those involved are now long dead, but still they're killing each other over those differences.
     
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    Sunni and Shia are the two main groups 80 to 90% Sunni, ( It changes as countries are conquered.

    These were developed from the two leaders after Muhammed died. His adopted son, Ali
    And his friend Abu Bakr. ( The first calief) ( He is the father of Ashia)
    Were main generals in his army.

    Muhammed left no instructions after his death so the two fought for power.
    The leader collects 20% of the booty taken, so there is lots of wealth and power on the line.

    They went back and forth until Ali the 4th Calief was murdered along with all his family.
    This represents Ashura. celebrated by the Shia, where they mutilate themselves.

    The two are sworn enemies.

    Abu Bakr,s side would become Sunni.
    Ali's would become Shitte.

    They then separated for 1400 years so different rituals and belief's would naturally develop.
    shitte went into India on raids,

    Sunni went into Europe.
     
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    Sure they are. Just like Catholicism which has its own role in placating Hitler and accepting and hiding child abuse , and Mormonism founded on polygamy and statutory rape in its early days. How many children have been damaged by priests and how many lives have been lost to fake healing by evangelicals.
    Spend your time and energy fighting for affordable heakthcare without which thousands upon thousands More suffer and die then at the hands if Muslims. There are 20000 Muslim doctors practicing in the US. Are they responsible too ?
     
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    I've tried to research if there are any fundamental religious differences and can't find any.

    Of course there'd be differences in rituals and traditions, which do not constitute part of the core religious beliefs.
     
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    There are minor ones, Shia pray 3 times a day, Sunni 5 times.
    Shia has Muhammeds grave, It's BS.
    He was buried under Ashias bed in Medina.
    They also have lots of monuments, perceived as idols, a no, no.
    They also claim Muhammeds bloodline.
    I have a book on it, but it's been a long time.

    Nothing to kill each other over, but hey, they are muslims.

    They have the same Qur'an and sunnah.
     
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    research "muslim doctor Medicare fraud"

    im not going to blame their religion but their culture has much lower ethical standards than most americans are accustomed to
     
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    Westboro doesn't kill people.
    and the Sunna has volumes on killing people, along with torture, rape and robbery
     
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    Actually the culture is defined by the religion.
    Mandatory for 1400 years

    whatever culture they had before Islam is long gone.
     
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    The Koreans do this here in seattle.
    They get busted every couple of years.
    Not on that scale, just a store doing what they think is legal business.


    Now in Islam, they are entitled to this, the kafir owe them.
    They are allowed, even obligated to rob the non-muslim.
    They have the documentation in their holy books to prove it.
     
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