Islam and Violence

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Again you ignore the peaceful teachings and example of Christianity, and the violence and coercion that is part and parcel of Islam. They will not change their religion because you want them to, Islam is clearly going in a more extreme direction. There was no violence in Christianity in the first centuries, what you refer to as violence came from governments that claimed to be Christian. Yes, big government is a danger. There has been no Christian violence in the entire history of the US, there has been freedom and human rights that the Muslim world has never known. And don't tell me about Jim Crow, Islam to this day treats kaffirs terribly, and has slaves. Slavery wasn't unique to the US, what was unique in the Judeo Christian West was the effort to end the slave trade and slavery itself, which as I said still exists in Islam.

    Islam has no tradition of the Golden Rule, turning the other check and forgiving your enemies, it is all about blood (tribe) and honor.
     
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    LOL, so you think being a Christian means calling black white? You deny the oppression going on in Islam? It's like an ongoing global Kristallnacht against Christians throughout Islam. Obviously you don't care.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, I do not deny the oppression going on in Islam or the oppression going on in Christianity, the fact is that christians have murdered far more than Muslims have. But I like the way you have to go for a comparison of Christian and Muslim violence, most revealing. Now keep denying that your religion kills.

    Best though is the way you use the christian kristalnacht as an example!
     
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    LOLOL

    Same sh-t.

    Islam has killed 270 million.
    Far more than Christianity or any other group.
     
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    As I've said before on this forum, the liberal elements that exist in certain Muslim societies are not necessarily outgrowths of any accepted strains of Islam, but in fact represent a relaxation of Islamic principles. Cultural differences, in other words, depend on just how Islamic the societies in question are.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Source?
     
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    What Christian oppression? Perhaps counseling would help your fear of that religion. Your pathetic attempt at moral equivalency doesn't work here. You atheists have killed 100X what any religion has.
     
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    Estimates are the Muslim Mughal empire in India killed over 100 million Hindus. The historian Will Durant called it the bloodiest episode in human history.

    Interesting that in India today Christians are 3% of the population but provide 18% of the health care.
     
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    There are many estimates going up to 360 million.
    I use 270 for wiggle room, and Bill warner calculated it.
    His is far more, IMO, research than others.
     
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    The body count grows daily, there are an average of five Muslim terror attacks globally every day.
     
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    Muslims in America are 1% of the population and 10% of the terror.
    and that is inaccurate because many muslim crimes are classified as something else.(ie. workplace violence)
     
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    Did you ask them? Why do they say 'Allah Akbar' while doing their crimes?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So no source then, thought not!
     
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    Actually that goes back to Muhammed's time, when a terrorist beheaded a sleeping foe,
    and carried his head back to Muhammed screaming Allah Ackbar.
     
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    Exactly, how many news outlets told the truth that the guy who recently threw the kid off the third story balcony in the MN mall is a Somali Muslim? Must have been a case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome.
     
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    Ever heard of the European age of discovery?
    Not looking at moral equivalence here, just that christians have killed more.
    Now source your claims.
     
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    The issue with the Muslim terror meter, is just being a Muslim does not get you on the list.
    You have to do it for the religion.
    If we find out he screamed Allah Ackbar as he did it, he would make the list.
     
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    Where are your claims.
    At least Bill Warner breaks down who and where.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you ever ask why they shout for god and country?
     
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    So you made the specific claim, you have no source and reply with asking me to prove mine. You never learn!
     
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    Cite, or did you just make that up?

    This book details something like a 100 million body count from atheistic communism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

    Atheism wasn't the sole reason for these crimes, but it was a necessary one. In the entire history of the Spanish Inquisition over several centuries, 20,000 died. Stalin was killing twice that per week at one point.
     
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    Because their god tells them to kill infidels.
     
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    So when was the last time a terrorist shouted "for God and country" as he killed people.
    Or recited the lords prayer.
    Or anything religious.
     
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    I see you have to shout "anything religious" and it has to be terrorism to count!
     
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    Here is a good breakdown of a few.
    He wrote books on the subject.
    Also you can E-mail him and he will supply answers for any question you ask.
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