Islamist militants strike heart of Tehran, Iran blames Saudis

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  1. Giftedone

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    Of course Israeli soldiers can be found among civilians. In the astute words of Bill Maher - it is more cowardly to drop bombs on civilians from an airplane than to conduct a suicide attack.

    Regardless, you missed the point. The idea that in general it is fair game to intentionally drop a bomb on a bunch of civilians because some bad guy happens to wander into close proximity with those civilians is mindless nonsense.
     
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    If rockets are hitting Israel from areas occupied by civilians the military has to respond
     
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    If Israel is dropping large bombs in civilian neighborhoods on a regular basis Hezbollah has to respond.

    Did you have a point ?
     
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    Israel's official policy on what war with Hezbollah will entail is set forth clearly here and has been laid out in repeated warnings and threats issued against Lebanon, including recently. And that policy is the reason why you can expect in another war between Israel and Hezbollah, for most of the damage to again fall on Lebanese civilian infrastructure and Lebanese civilians. That reason is not any of the nonsense and excuses posted by pro Israeli partisans here.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-lebanon-idUSTRE6BF20L20101216
    Israel can't defeat Hezbollah: Israeli expert
     
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    So when hezbollah was firing thousands of rockets into civilian areas in israel, that wasn't terrorism? Can I fire them at your neighborhood?
     
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    A lie.

    So now you're claiming the opposite, just pathetic.

    Make a decision, they were or weren't attacking civilian targets.

    BTW, who in lebanon voted for hezbollah to start that war? Point us to the parliamentary vote that accepting attacking Israel.
     
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    Is it possible for you to make a single post without attributing falsehoods to me so you have something to attack .... Mr. Strawman ?

    You were the one that was making an argument that trying to justify bombing civilians in a neighborhood - on the basis that some bad guy was hiding among civilians.

    Don't try to pin your warped perspective on me.
     
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    Sure, that's why hezbollah has been so, so aggressive in stopping Israeli attacks into syria destroying its weapons for the past 7 years.

    I am PRAYING the hezbollah vermin start another war, so israel can finish them off once and for all, which is what, after their participation in the massacre of the syrian people for the last 7 years most of the mideast outside iran is hoping for. Shoot, I might even volunteer for the Israelis and return to service so I can put a bullet into the heads of some of the hezbollah filth myself.

    Now that I read the article, your quote, as to be expected, was taken out of context.

    He said because hezbollah is dung and hides amongst civilians, it makes it more difficult to fight them.

    How come the hezbollah vermin place their weapons in civilian homes? Isn't that a war crime? Derrrrrr..............

    As said earlier, I enjoyed the attack in teheran yesterday immensely, and am PRAYING for many more such "blowbacks" against the iranian scum. Daily even, would be ideal.
     
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    Oh that's for feckin sure! Israel can't be beaten in that contest. What's funny is that some morons think they are safe using multiple accounts, making insults but they are wrong and they will find it out.
     
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    They were of several nationalaties and they are also dead... Do you judge all Americans by American criminals?
     
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    Your beloved Saud is a greater supporter of terrorism.
     
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    That wasn't criminals. It was a majority of Saudi Arabian terrorists. And yes, I judge American terrorists. Of course. However, KSA's a nation of Wahhabis instead of a free Republic like the United States. They breed terror for a living.
     
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    That only makes sense if you are pro hezbollah

    The arabs initiated the violence and if they stop Israel will stop
     
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    When did Saudi Arabia attack Iran?
     
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    There has been many acts of muslim terrorism since 9-11 so we know that all the bad muslims did not die in that single attack
     
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    That's true, but the Saudis have never attacked Iran.
     
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    What an outright, intentional, liar this "jimmy rivers" happens to be. There is nothing in the article I posted saying what he falsely claims he read in that article. Or otherwise suggesting what I quoted was out of context. Nothing.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-lebanon-idUSTRE6BF20L20101216
    Of course, Israel's terrorism does work: Hezbollah is indeed under a lot of pressure by its Christian allies and others not to respond to many of Israel's recent attacks, which are taking place in Syria and not in Lebanon. The Christians parties in Lebanon want Hezbollah to agree to only defend and respond to attacks in Lebanon. And since Hezbollah was able to help break the impasse and the presidency in Lebanon is held by Michael Aoun, who has an alliance with Hezbollah, that has constrained Hezbollah's ability to respond to Israel. Otherwise, just as in 2015 when Hezbollah wasn't so constrained and Israel attacked a Hezbollah convoy in Syria, with Hezbollah retaliating in kind, the same would happen again. But as I have said, and what the Israelis have noted themselves, their terrorism does work to some extent as Hezbollah doesn't want to be blamed by the Lebanese for the damage the Israelis have promised to their country in case of war - when the attacks in question are taking place in Syria, not in Lebanon itself.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20150128-israel-shells-lebanon-hezbollah-strike-israeli-army-convoy
     
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    Wahhabi Arabia is funding and fueling terrorist groups (Baluchi Sunnis) alongside Iran's borders, including its border with Pakistan as well as among Iran's Arab minority in Khuzistan, in particular the minority among that minority who happen to be Sunni. They also, more or less openly, fund and support the MEK - which is a terrorist organization or cult and was so designated until recently even in the US, before lobbying by pro Israeli and their influential neocon sponsors took off them off the US state department list. Of course, Iran doesn't provide fertile ground for Wahhabi terrorism since it is an overwhelmingly shia country with no interest among its populace in what the Wahhabis have to peddle. And as shown in Iran's recent presidential election, where participation rates among even Iran's minorities surpassed the usual participation rates in many US elections, the kind of groups that Wahhabi Arabia, and the neocons, like to support, are basically composed of deranged, self-serving, individuals who represent no one but their sponsors.
     
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    Israel is a terror cell. Saudi Arabia is the terror hub. United States of America is the terror itself. Us and israell wanted Qatari gas for themselves but the Emir said NO! And then just like you pointed out nicely, the terror cell, terror hub and the terror itself came together and blamed Qatar for the sh.its they actually have been doing for years.

    No worries though... We're on it... This will end soon. Iran-Türkiye-Russia-Syria bloc will make these bastards bleed... The Emir wants it too:

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    To be honest: I am not sure how this whole Qatar thing will work out? Qatar, however, has often tried to leverage its independence by aligning its foreign policy with Turkey to keep some distance and maneuver room for itself viz a viz Wahhabi Arabia. While Iran and Turkey have their own rivalry and differences, ultimately I respect Turkey but have no respect whatsoever for Wahhabi Arabia. They are just without any redeeming qualities.
    In the meantime, I will post two articles. One from Al Jazeera, which is owned by Qatar, and the other from Al Arabiya which is owned by Wahhabi Arabia. The article from Al Arabiya, like so much they print, is ultimately nothing but ridiculous and completely fabricated lies.
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/qatar-fm-ready-surrender-170608142453812.html
    I hope Qatar takes up Iran's offer, but knowing the hostility towards Iran from Wahhabi Arabia, Israel, and the Trump crowd, I think they are being cautious. In fact, even be so cautious, the fake news outlet owned by Wahhabi Arabia is already posting nonsense such as this report below.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ds-protecting-Qatari-emir-inside-palace-.html
    Of course, the above story is totally baseless but so much that is written about Iran by both the Wahhabi as well as the Israeli sponsored media is equally baseless.
     
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    I don't say we don't have a rivalry but I know as a concrete fact that the potential of our cooperation is much bigger in size than this rivalry's farthest boundaries. Iran should understand that all the bargaining chips are doomed to be crumble upon each other when there's America at the end of the table, stirring up the region using sectarianism. There's nothing but terror that Iran can get out of such negotiation table. The experience Russians had cost them a lot. Turkiye may have paid the biggest cost ever. Now Iran is about to get on that dead-end road. For example, why altering the supply routes? Didn't want to poke US by touching YPG at the north but look what happened; even the Syrian Army started to take out YPG targets, saying hi to Turkiye. Iran must see that it can't make nothing happen "alone" in the middle east.

    There's no doubt that Turkiye's the strongest ties with Qatar among many Middle Eastern countries including Arab nations. Iran's approach to Qatar is not new. But it couldn't have reached this point if Turkiye didn't believe a strong Qatar-Iran relationship is also in Turkiye's interest. This is a vision we all need to have if we want our great states endure as unitary structures. I think the offer has already been accepted btw.
     
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    It is interesting how the top terrorist supporting states (of which Qatar was one) are trying to pin the blame all on Qatar.

    We will see how this story evolves going forward.
     
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    We are simply talking about two diffrent things, you are talking about setting targets and Im talking about recognizing the threat, I had no intention to rally you or the world against the mighty Ramallah or Gaza or Beirut- we really can take of that ourselves if needed, I also never hoped nor tried to make a poster switch sides, Im only arguing that among death culture terrorists they all share the same ideolgy and it got nothing to do with "resistance" and a country that supports that with incitive public funerals or knowledge of fanatics and not doing anything about it - is asking for same fanatics to turn on it one day when things wont run as smoothly as they expect. if you think you can allow terror in Israel or Africa but battle it in Europe - you are very mistaken.
     
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    That I would LOOOOVE to see this record of Israel bombing Lebanon "on regular basis" and only then the poor but gallant Hizbi respond, love to see one very much, THX.
     
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    You have now moved the goalposts, built a big strawman and failed to address the central point of my posts.

    I do not side with either side of the blood feud in Israel. Like a whole lot of Israeli's .. I call out both sides for engaging in wanton killing of civilians.

    This however has nothing to do with what was being discussed ... the fact that there is a big difference between the conflict in Israel and ISIS.
     

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