Islands, Churches, and Guns

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by darrenlobo, Jun 22, 2015.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Well as soon as you can snap your fingers and send us all back to the stone age you can have your wish.

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    He's taking the long view. Those murdered, raped, robbed, oppressed people are just statistics.
     
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    I never suggested we take anyone's guns away.
     
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    Some how I misunderstood your remark that you believe gun shops should have zero inventory to mean people should not own guns.
     
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    Most manufactured here are for export, or for the military.
     
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    No humans no victims

    no germs-no disease

    what a silly comment. as if bullets are going to disappear due to the wishes of the Graboids

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    people would just steal them from government sources as they do now. why don't you stick to realistic suggestions rather than this silly lets make ammo disappear crap

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    more idiocy. as the number of guns in private hands have gone up, the amount of gun crime has gone down

    we need to decrease the number of people who are ignorant about the facts

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    when we see the pathetic arguments you gun banners spew, it only proves how wrong you are
     
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    I don't think people should own guns, but I don't think we should take anyone's guns away.

    I just think we should work towards a future where there are fewer guns, and eventually none. Even if it's 1000 years from now before they are all gone.
     
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    when we see the pathetic arguments you gun banners spew, it only proves how wrong you are
     
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    This statement is not true.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The linked document does not contain data to refute my statement, that I can see. Conspicuously missing is the 'for the military' data.
     
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    The numbers posted exclude firearms manufactured for the military.

    Read the footnotes.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A significant percentage of the firearms manufactured in our country are for the military, as I said, and are missing from your data.
     
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    Because control over firearms translates into control over people.
     
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    Firearms themselves translate into control over people.
     
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    They also serve to defend against those who want to control you.
     
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    The same is true for physical superiority. Anyone who is able-bodied, is capable of exercising control over someone who is not able-bodied. In other words, those who are disabled, and subject to protections under the Americans with Disabilities Act, is vulnerable to abuse by those who are not disabled, and placed at their mercy.

    Do you advocate the disabled being at the mercy of those who are able-bodied and predisposed towards violence?
     
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    You should spend your energy ridding society of evil before you attempt to rid society of tools of self defense. It a horse cart thing you have backwards.
     
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    Give that man a Silver Star!!!!
    In the place where I lived before, I was pretty durned sick of all of the people who were trying to convert me to participation in their little militias. When I got here, I tried pretty hard to live without guns. I would prefer to live that way.
    One fine day, I was out photographing a ghost town and minding my own business. Then came a pack of drunken idiots on ATV's, shooting in every direction. I laid one of my tripods on top of the other stuff I had on the hood of my car, and held it like a rifle. They saw me, and abruptly changed their behavior.
    I realized then that if I am to enjoy my freedom of movement, I have to be prepared to deal with people who have no regard for decency, the law, or for me. That's the way of the world, at present.
    It would be a good thing to see people becoming more gentle, caring and civilized, and to see guns just disappear because we don't need them anymore. Don't expect to see that happen in 100 years. I give it more like 65,000 years, if we manage to exist for that long without annihilating the planet.

     
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    Yes, but those who want to control me will use guns to do so.
     
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    Then comply with their directions, then again maybe they'll still kill you. Hope you are good at mind reading, eh?
     
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    I gotta tell ya, I yearn for the bygone days when I could break some pipsqueak's nose for popping off at me. We had a much more polite society. Now the pipsqueaks are on equal footing and much more prone to pop off. Does that seem right to you?
     
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    Ah so you're upset that you can no longer violate the rights of others with impunity because they have armed themselves. Thanks for proving our entire argument.

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    Then be controlled or arm yourself.
     

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