Israel considering law to ban photographing or filming of IDF soldiers

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  1. alexa

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    Well put it this way if Hamas in Gaza is building remote controlled submarines with which to attack Israel while it is totally cut off from the world, that is a hell of a lot of potential that is being wasted.

    or, it may just be another of Israelis excuses in this case for murder as well as the bombing of Gaza which she has come out with, as an excuse a minute, for the past couple of months.

    Mind you, given that Israel has been pounding Gaza the last two or three months, it would make sense to try and find some deterrent.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They think they can do it now though. Trump is in power and he is being led by the American Christian Right.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Imagine, if Israel did not control what is brought into Gaza by sea, what would they build? A guided missiles, at the least?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gaza as well as Samaria and Judea have many science labs, where they manufacture rockets, Molotov kites, condom kites, slingshots...
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was talking about peaceful science labs. The term "Rocket Science" has a different meaning there!
     
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    Yes, Trump's presidency intensifies Zionist arrogance. But whether it brings them an advantage is questionable. I think that Zionists will lose the struggle in the end. Oppressive systems all have a limited lifespan.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose you would have a point if you ignore the surrounding region and how they treat Jews, Christians, non-Muslims, women, gay people, atheists, and people with an opinion of their own. Israel is the only small strip of land where it is safe to be those things. The surrounding region is all but cleansed of these people.
     
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    I think that the Gazans have other priorities than flying to mars.
    Though, it would be nice if the Zionists moved there. :D
     
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    Any peaceful science lab will be stated as a threat by Israel and will be blown up - Israel will make up any excuse to blow up random locations in Gaza
     
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    Let's say you're right. But what's the price for that? Repeated massacres of civilians, destruction of Palestinian villages, occupation, oppression and terror. That can't be the right way.
     
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    They are given more than enough reasons. So far, we know that Palestinians cannot be trusted with cement, helium, or tires. Maybe you're right and no labs can ever exist.

    Yes, they do need to contain the threat next door, but they have Israeli-Arabs, Christians, atheists, and gay people who are perfectly safe and happy in Israel. This does not exist in the surrounding region. Where else can someone walk through town wearing a yarmulke or a cross? Hell, where else can people safely criticize their own leadership?
     
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    Zionism could have existed in 181 resolution lines which were very different of what we have today, it fulfilled its destiny in 1948, what we have now is an ethnic war, taking land in the WB got nothing to do with Zionism, its more about religion and the fact we probably have to fight forever.
     
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    Israel behind 'Christian exodus' from Palestine


    Forbidden Pilgrimage


    'We are one': Palestinian Christians and Muslims unite against Trump's Jerusalem call

    Israel's friends need to call out its unjustified treatment of Palestine's Christian community



    London's Christians were called antisemites for supporting Palestinian Christians

    The American Christian Right cannot stand Christians who are not Zionists, who do not believe in putting all the Jews into Israel in the hope of Armageddon.

    The Church of Scotland wrote The Inheritance of Abraham after Palestinian Christians asked them for help. They are no longer Imperialistic Zionists and hoped they could have an impact on American Christian Zionists whose actions, in the original book they said they believe may be at least in part, responsible for how Christians in the ME are being treated.

    There is so much information on the suffering of Palestinian Christians but of course not being Zionists, the American Christian Right have no care for their well being - or for that matter of other Christians in the ME unless to use as Propaganda.
     
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    From Israelis who have rabbis who tell soldiers going to war that even babies are game maybe.
     
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    No and I dont even think you can blame Bibi Likud for that, all Israel Gov did in the last 10 years is to try and contain riots, never took a lead always reacting, we could have conquered Gaza in 2014 if the Gov wanted mass killing, genocide or whatever you want to call it,

    "Give up" you mean we need to cut our country in half allowing Gaza and WB connection, cut right throu Israel heart (Jerusalem) and allow Millions of Palestinian and their grand families into the largest Jewish majority part of the land - making Arabs a majority or close to it.
    Now you tell me if that's something you think Israelis will go to war for.
     
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    Both true and not relevant, as the war continues and population rise there will be more expanding in the WB.
     
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    Is not it getting boring to always beat the Democrats and the evil Muslims ... but completely blind to the crimes and outrages of the other side - that of Israel?

    Of course, it is wrong to steal only on Israel, because the Palestinians can do it just as well ... but you are so kind of the opposite pole to the Israeli haters and make the same mistake and also lose the objectivity on the facts!
     
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    How does this answer the question: So what is the point in choosing to fight if it doesn't get them anywhere and only leads to death to fighters and civilians?

    Is it actually your understanding that Palestine doesn't provoke Israel's response? Oh dear.
     
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    This issue has already been dealt with. You did not know who the PA was or what particular incident I was talking about. I gave you a link to a basics on the situation. Stop trolling me.

    I haven't said anything about this either way.

    Given that you know absolutely nothing about the situation and hence clearly come only from a position to bait I suggest you stop using these mindless baiting posts presumably trying to harass me.
     
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    Do the Palestinian terrorists allow the media to take photos of them launching rockets from elementary schools and hospitals?
     
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    I am unaware of the above happening. Certainly the UN found weapons in two of their places before Israel started her war against the civilians of Gaza and demanded Hamas remove them. However on the occasions when Israel bombed these facilities which were trying to provide refuge for civilians whose homes Israel had destroyed warning them to flee or she would kill them, the UN said there was no evidence of any such bombs and in one place even searched it about three times telling Israel as many times that there were civilians there not Hamas or weapons. That did not stop Israel bombing and killing the civilians she had recently made homeless and threatened to kill if they refused to flee.

    I notice you are defending Israel's intention to give Israelis and other who engage in investigative reporting of Israelis actions, photos of indiscretions for example murder or beatings, 5-10 years in jail. You must be another American who no longer believes in Democracy and democratic rights like freedom of the press.
     
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    Can the Israeli settler terrorists, who steal land from the Palestinians with state help and expropriate them, being filmed?
     
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    The problem is that you responded to a post of mine that was actually to another member. So I imagine that you didn't know the context before you replied to me. Allow me to fill you in. The other member said, "the Palestinians have only two options. Fighting for freedom or living under constant oppression." To this I responded by asking what is the point of fighting if it only leads to death and doesn't get Palestine anywhere. So unless you are capable of answering that question, then we have nothing further to discuss.

    You said, "I am not sure by the way why you are accusing the Palestinians of being the people doing the attacks." And I was responding by asking you if you believe that Palestine doesn't provoke Israel's response. The recent violence following the embassy move - Israel did not just start attacking Palestine! You surely have GOT to know this!
     
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    Palestinians have rejected a two state solution. Let them live with the consequences.
     
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    It's absurd to think you can lecture me about democracy.

    When the Palestinians mature as s people, peace may be possible.
     

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