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Israel: US Asks Iran to Not Sink an American Carrier, “Just Kill Some Troops Instead”

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  1. Sobo

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    Obama publicly informed that it was an american drone amd even asked Iran to return it.

    Iran did not return it but reverse engineered it.

    Thats not disinformation. Thats a fact.

    Your tech is often crap. At the moment we want renew parts of our fighter fleet. Until our own 5th gen jet is ready we planned to buy the F-35. It was tested by our airforce and labelled as trash. Just one engine, slow acceleration, low end speed ect.

    In the end it was kicked out of competition.
     
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    If you’re not allies, your enemies!
     
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  3. Iranian Monitor

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    I have already posted comments from the US naval and its top ranking officers. But you are certainly free to believe what you wish.
     
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  4. william kurps

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    I remember that, it looked like the only thing it could do is shoot off bottle rockets
     
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  5. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    I gotta say though, that thing does look incredibly dangerous.

    To anybody dumb enough to crew it, that is.
     
    Creasy Tvedt, Jan 5, 2020
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    They built a fake aircraft carrier and attacked it with 20 foot boats ..


    It was hilarious

    So next you claim Iran has 220 mph torpedoes?

    Iran's Military Fires Advanced Torpedo Based on Russia's Fastest in the World
    May 9, 2017 · A torpedo is fired from Iran's first domestically made ... Iranian political and military leaders have publicly ...
    Missing: 220 ‎| Must include: 220



    upload_2020-1-5_5-27-52.png https://abcnews.go.com › story
    Iran tested high-speed torpedo in the Strait of Hormuz, US official says - ABC ...
    May 8, 2017 · Iran tested a high -speed torpedo on Sunday that is ... The torpedo is believed to have a range of six miles.
    Missing: 220 ‎mph



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    Opinion | The Navy built a ship to fight Iran. After 16 years and $30B, it still isn't ...
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    Jul 19, 2019 · The Navy shot down an Iranian drone after Iran seized an oil tanker. ... an Iranian drone that came close to an American ship (a claim Iran denied).
     
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    That's an impressive array of targets. They'll make great practice for the US Navy.
     
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    Actually, even some of Iran's smaller subs are equipped with not only torpedoes which can sink warships, but missiles that can be fired from under the water.
    https://www.military.com/video/iran-submarine-test-fires-anti-ship-cruise-missile
    Iran Submarine Test Fires anti-ship Cruise Missile


    This shows the torpedoes that can be fired from even the smaller subs.
     
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    They probably used their tidal wave generator.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17091...paganda-video-showing-slaying-of-great-satan/

    It couldn't have just crashed... That could never have happened.
     
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    I kept thinking the design is based on the Confederate submarine, where they used hand cranks


    H. L. Hunley, often referred to as Hunley, was a submarine of the Confederate States of America that played a small part in the American Civil War. Hunley demonstrated the advantages and the dangers of undersea warfare. ... Hunley, nearly 40 feet (12 m) long, was built at Mobile, Alabama, and launched in July 1863.
    Wikipedia › wiki › H._L._Hunley_(...
    H. L. Hunley (submarine) - Wikipedia
     

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  11. Iranian Monitor

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    You can pretend as you wish, but the US navy knows it will be in trouble and under the water in case of a war with Iran. Which is why if the US ever wanted to actually fight a war with Iran, it would have to take out its navy out of the region first. (Which is what it did with the HQ of its central command).
     
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    I’m not a fan of the F-35. Good news is we don’t really need it to remain superior in the air.
     
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    You want allies or vasalls?
     
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    Missile that can be fired from underwater?! WOOOOOOOOW!

    Welcome to the 1960s, Iran.
     
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    Iran isn’t a threat they’re a nuisance.

    I for one vote to wipe the country off the face of the earth at this point. They are like a mosquito.
     
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    He admitted it was our drone. He did not say that it was intact.
     
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    I call a bluff remember when Iran said they launched a missile from a submarine, it turned out to be from an underwater platform


    Remember when Iran got caught photo shopping missile launches ?



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    Video of Iranian Missile Test Is Fake, Pentagon Says - Los Angeles Times
    Sep 10, 2006 · Video of Iranian Missile Test Is Fake, Pentagon Says ... purporting to show a test of a new submarine missile is bogus, three Pentagon officials confirmed
     
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    Iran doesn't have a navy except some fishing boats
     
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    They reverse engineered it. Israel shot one down over Israel and said its a exact copy of your drone model.

    The iranians also did hack its data and published even the pictures in its cache, including from the tarmac at the american base.
     
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  21. Iranian Monitor

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    You can believe what you wish. These are capabilities the US navy is aware of.
     
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    Aware of, and not at all scared of.

    The American Navy is equipped and prepared to battle the Russian fleet, and the Iranian fleet is not even in the same league as the Russian fleet. If the Iranian Navy's league exploded(and it soon may), the Russians wouldn't even hear a pop.
     
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    They did not say that either. They said it was based on the platform and significant differences were noted.

    Crashed doesn't mean vaporized. Raster images are very easy to locate in data.
     
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  24. Iranian Monitor

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    I already told you: the US navy isn't even ready for a war with Iran. Don't take it from me:

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/30/the-u-s-navy-isnt-ready-to-take-on-iran/
    The U.S. Navy Isn’t Ready to Take On Iran
    That’s why, for now, tough talk may remain just that.
     
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    Yeah, but we're not talking about "all out war" here, because there's not going to be a war. America won't be "taking on Iran".

    If anything, Iran will do something dumb with a few boats in their fleet, and hilarity will ensue.
     
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