Israeli Aircraft Attack Syrian Forces

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  1. Jeannette

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    According to Israel, the missiles that landed in the Israeli occupied part of Golan Heights, came from Syria... But as has been the case in the past, the terrorists who guard the Golan Heights habitually send missiles Israel's way as an excuse for Israel to attack the Syrian army.

    If the missiles were really accidental over spills as Israel says, then why are their jets always attacking and bombing the Syrians and not the terrorists? By doing that isn't it illegal for Israel to enter Syrian airspace... or doesn't Israel care? The whole thing stinks to high heaven.


    A source on the ground told RIA Novosti that the Syrian government forces have been repelling a massive Nusra-Front terrorists' attack in the Golan Heights when they were struck by the Israeli Air Force in the area. According to the source, a Israeli Air Force helicopter launched a strike on the Syrian army in Baath at the moment of the al-Nusra Front offensive.

    Earlier on Saturday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said that the Israeli Air Force attacked the Syrian government forces' tanks and artillery positions after 10 projectiles fell on the Israeli-controlled part of the Golan Heights.

    According to Al Mayadeen channel citing a source, at least two Syrian soldiers were killed in the airstrike. The majority of such incidents are described by the Israeli military as accidental overspills during clashes between the Syrian government forces and opposition groups.

    https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201706241054948125-israel-syria-army-golans/


     
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    Even it is hard to imagine what the Syrian soldiers feel... They are fighting with terrorists and Israel shoots in the back of them.

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    It is not much of a secret that the Israelis are not only hoping that Assad's forces don't clean up the terrorist groups such as Al-Nusra (aka Al Queda in its previous incarnation) and ISIS and end their scourge, but are often actively supporting these groups. In fact, I am not aware of any other state that has publicly admitted to preferring and rooting for ISIS over Assad's forces so long as Assad is allied to Iran. And which still openly funds and supports such groups. Yet, not a critical word is uttered against the Israelis in the US or elsewhere on this point.
     
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    Vladimir Putin said it right, that Israel has to stop thinking of Iran in terms of 500 BC. It's a different country now... and from what I have noticed Iran has attacked no one, while Israel and its associates... like the US and Saudi Arabia, attack everyone.


    This latest act on the part of Israel is not going to endear them to anyone other than Saudi Arabia. Anyway here's something from the Duran:

    The Israeli attack on two Syrian Arab Army tanks and missile launchers came as the SAA was engaged in fierce combat with Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham, an al-Qaeda terrorist group in the area. In this sense, Israel has helped al-Qaeda terrorists by attacking those who had been fighting them.

    Israel claims that two stray projectiles landed in Israeli occupied Golan Heights injuring no one and striking nothing.
     
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    i missed this the other day Russian cruse missiles
    taking out isis ammunition centers? is this why israel counter syria forces?
     
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    Bernhard over at Moon of Alabama has this to say on the matter (links embedded in story).

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/0...mercenaries-started-three-years-ago.html#more

    Al- aeda attacked a Syrian Arab Army position in Madinat al-Baath (map) next to the Israel occupied Golan heights. Al-Qaeda requested Israeli fire-support by launching some mortars towards empty space in the Israel occupied area. The Israeli Defense Force accepted the request and destroyed two Syrian Arab Army tanks. Two Syrian soldiers were killed. The SAA held steady and the al-Qaeda attack on its position failed.

    This was very easy to predict. Israel has supported al-Qaeda in the area since at least 2014. The al-Qaeda fire-request-by-mortar scheme has been in place for at least three years. In October 2014 the UN Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF), which back then still covered the area, reported to the UN Security Council:

    On 23 June [2014], Israel targeted nine Syrian army positions with tank fire and air strikes after mortar fire from the Syrian side the previous day killed an Israeli civilian. Israel’s assessment is that most of these incidents are due to errant fire resulting from fighting in Syria. Israel said that armed opposition groups were probably responsible but that its forces fired on Syrian military positions to stress that Syria was responsible for security on its side of the ceasefire line.

    The UN observers mentioned the "black flags" the "rebels" were using. The "rebels" in that area are al-Qaeda forces. This "fire support request by mortar" scheme has been repeated again and again. The Israeli argument is an insult to logic: "The Syrian army is responsible for keeping al-Qaeda out of the area so we respond to "errant" al-Qaeda fire by destroying the Syrian army."

    But "western" and Israeli media did and do not report or analyzed the obvious scheme. This even as this theater act gets repeated over and over again. They lie and simply report the "errant fire" nonsense even when it is clear that this is coordinated military support for al-Qaeda. For years they have hidden Israeli support for al-Qaeda and its deep involvement in the Syrian war. Witness Haaretz which only today(!) headlines: Analysis - Israel’s Slow Creep Into the Syrian Civil War. That "slow creep", which Haaretz describes and analyzes as a new phenomenon, started at least three years ago and was neither slow nor a creep. It is full fledged support for terrorism and has been such since its beginning.

    The Wall Street Journal, also three years late, reported last week that Israel had set up a special IDF unit to advise, train, support and control al-Qaeda in the Golan area: Israel Gives Secret Aid to Syrian Rebels

    Israel even pays al-Qaeda's salaries:

    The person familiar with Israel’s assistance confirmed that cash moves across the border but said it goes for humanitarian purposes. However, rebels interviewed said they use the cash to pay fighters’ salaries and to buy weapons and ammunition—something the Israeli military wouldn’t comment on.
     
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    Al Queda is used as guards for the Golan Heights, and in return Israel treats their men in hospitals and basically supports them. ..which makes me think of something Putin said to Bush when finding out that the CIA was supporting the terrorists in Chechnya. It was something to the affect that it's not smart to help terrorists. Two weeks later 911 happened.
     
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    video out on the tanks being bomb today
     
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    It is a different country. More dangerous than ever.
     
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    did yah notice the tanks where turning their turrets here and moving between a buildings firing in different directions not as stationary and aiming at israels border
     
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    ISIS does not attack Israel. They attack only Syria and the Taliban in Afghanistan. And recently ISIS appeared on the Philippines. Filipin sent **** USA and ISIS attacked the Filipinos.
     
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    911 would have happened no matter what Putin said to Bush and no matter what was happening in Golan.
     
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    I always wondered about ISIS suddenly appearing in the Philippines, at a time when relations between the US and Philippines were at a low point, and Duerte had planned a visit to China. Isn't it strange the way the US army appeared fighting ISIS when they were never asked to do so by Duerte?

    It reminds me of the problems over the delineation of boundaries of the territorial waters in the S. China seas. All the problems with China popped up at the time the Asian nations were ready to rid themselves of the American bases. Funny how they suddenly needed the Americans to help them negotiate with China in a position of strength.

    The end result of US support for the Philippines is that they gained nothing from the mineral wealth in the seas, when they could have gained something from the offers made by China. What Asia has now is a war situation where they could all be blasted from here to kingdom come.

    I'm sure though the government officials gained and are now living the high life on the American dollar.
     
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    How many percent of your country's citizens understand this?
     
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    Iran as far as I can tell has never done anything that would make them dangerous other than in the minds and propaganda of others. I have to assume though that Israel despises their open support of the Palestinians, while Saudi Arabia in contrast is more secretive about it.

    I really don't know much about the situation, but I'm sure Russia does otherwise Putin wouldn't have said what he did. But then again Russia is not the one being threatened. Of course the possibility exists that Iran's anger might be because of Netanyahu's paranoia towards them... not to mention the assassinations of their scientists. I mean you can't keep attacking someone without causing some kind of reaction in return.

    Anyway I'm forming my opinion from the little I know... and unlike Syria and Ukraine, I really don't know that much.
     
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    If they hit the Golan Heights, than they did not hit Israel. If they hit or almost hit Israeli's in the Golan Heights, than they always got the option to move to their side of the border. Not seeing any excuse to shoot back on this.
     
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    The Russian military say that these were the tanks of al-Nusra. Terrorists are firing at Israel to provoke an attack on the Syrian army. And since the heads of the Israeli command are full of bullshit, they always say that Syrian army is deliberately shooting at Israel.
     
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    Probably no one! I have a long memory and I am able to connect the dots... Oh well, at least I try to educate them on this forum. :roll:

    To be honest I wasn't fully aware of what was going on until my government turned against Assad. I knew him as the most tolerant and secular leader in the Middle East, and I knew Syrians that were praising him and even moving back to Syria. We destroyed that country as we did Libya from arrogance, malice and indifference towards those we cannot relate to. We are no better than Nazis.

    A holy Orthodox elder said a few years back that Washington is under satan, so I guess we shouldn't expect differently. Our only hope was Trump, and that he would have had the strength to fight the globalists and the one world order freaks, but he ended up bowing to them. Thank God for Russia and Vladimir Putin.
     
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    It does not sound encouraging...
     
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    The largest state sponsor of terrorism would be a good start as to why they are feared and despised.


    Oh, and trying to get nukes with the express purpose of using the on Israel.
     
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    You say these things, but I haven't seen any terrorist attacks by Iran, nor is there proof that they wanted nukes to use against Israel. Neither is there proof that Iran is feared and despised by any nation other than the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and the other Sunni states... who are all known for their aggressiveness and indifference towards human lives.

    Anyway according to Sputnik, Israel might be attacking because of
    the alleged plans of the Iraqi Shiite militia to create a brigade to liberate the Golan Heights.



    “After recent victories (in Syria), we have established the Golan Liberation Brigade," al-Moussavi said at a press conference, as quoted by the Tasnim News Agency.

    He added: "If the Syrian government requests, we are ready to take actions to liberate Golan."
     
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    Has Israel ever tried to make amends with Iran? I say this because I recall their PM saying that the quote of wiping Israel off the map was a misinterpretation. Isn't this more of a defensive reaction on their part, and one that shows that want to better relations? They also said that the Jews were never persecuted in Iran, as if telling them they were never their enemy.

    Could it be that their culture is more outward in expressing their anger and resentments, then let's say the Sunnis and others would be? This doesn't mean though they would react on it.
     
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