Israel's 70-th anniversary

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Retaliate to what?
     
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    vanityofvanitys Well-Known Member

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    I rarely find you worth my time either.
    I don't think you even believe half of the outlandish theories and claims you trot out. You just want to create a fire to watch it burn.
     
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    Lying liberals, phony journalism, evil politicians, clueless snowflakes, angry intolerant muslims, mocking atheists, and totally lost-minded anti-trumpers have really soured me on the human race. I am just one of those Christians who because I am certain of my beliefs are a favorite target of the egotistical foolish sad cases so noted above. And it would be fine with me, except I hate seeing our nation being thrown into the clutches of the evil one along with all the filth and sin and lies. Below is a history lesson for any unbiased honest person left. No you need not waste your precious time, but call it a public service.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-arabs-in-palestine
    For many centuries, Palestine was a sparsely populated, poorly cultivated and widely-neglected expanse of eroded hills, sandy deserts and malarial marshes. Mark Twain, who visited Palestine in 1867, described it as: "...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country."

    As late as 1880, the American consul in Jerusalem reported the area was continuing its historic decline. "The population and wealth of Palestine has not increased during the last forty years," he said.

    The Report of the Palestine Royal Commission quotes an account of the Maritime Plain in 1913:
    The road leading from Gaza to the north was only a summer track suitable for transport by camels and carts...no orange groves, orchards or vineyards were to be seen until one reached [the Jewish village of] Yabna [Yavne]....Houses were all of mud. No windows were anywhere to be seen....The ploughs used were of wood....The yields were very poor....The sanitary conditions in the village were horrible. Schools did not exist....The western part, towards the sea, was almost a desert....The villages in this area were few and thinly populated. Many ruins of villages were scattered over the area, as owing to the prevalence of malaria, many villages were deserted by their inhabitants.

    Lewis French, the British Director of Development wrote of Palestine:
    We found it inhabited by fellahin who lived in mud hovels and suffered severely from the prevalent malaria....Large areas...were uncultivated....The fellahin, if not themselves cattle thieves, were always ready to harbor these and other criminals. The individual plots...changed hands annually. There was little public security, and the fellahin's lot was an alternation of pillage and blackmail by their neighbors, the Bedouin.

    Surprisingly, many people who were not sympathetic to the Zionist cause believed the Jews would improve the condition of Palestinian Arabs. For example, Dawood Barakat, editor of the Egyptian paper Al-Ahram, wrote: "It is absolutely necessary that an entente be made between the Zionists and Arabs, because the war of words can only do evil. The Zionists are necessary for the country: The money which they will bring, their knowledge and intelligence, and the industriousness which characterizes them will contribute without doubt to the regeneration of the country."
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    I often decide whether I believe some ideas by giving them a trial by fire. The ideas I advocate for consistently are my actual beliefs.
     
  5. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Muslims buy land and property in Europe, that does not give them the right to impose their culture and laws on Europeans. Now explain why you think land purchase gives Jews the right to impose their religion, language and laws on the indigenous population?
     
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    I don't appreciate them but I admire them. They build a wealthy nations with high tech sectors, they have a fair share of scientific contributions considering how tiny are their country, they won against any opposition.

    They're clearly an admirable people, from the human point of view, that's different, even if I understand that jews can't trust neither muslims or christians.
     
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    we Jews created Israel as a solution to our millenia of suffering from discrimination and persecution.

    however Israel routinely discriminates against non-Jews and has stolen lots of land from non-Jews.

    it even had a plan to force out most of its non-jewish population before the Arab-Israeli War of 1948

    Im not a religious guy but the Bible is full of allegorical stories about the Jews disobeying God and suffering due to it.

    In the Bible God commands the Jews to be respectful and tolerant towards foreigners in their land. the State of Israel has rejected this, and perhaps that is why Israel suffers
     
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    Wait. Did you just say that Israel and ISIS are enemies? I think you need to do your research.

    Who does Israel support in the Syria war? The side that wants to overthrow Assad. Who wants to overthrow Assad in Syria? ISIS.

    So no, opposing Israel is not "siding with jihadists", it's the contrary even.
     
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    Try some truth for a change ISSIS was not the only faction trying to overthrow Assad.
     
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    Who’s the redneck?
     
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    Shooting back at troglodytes that fire rockets at them.
     
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    So if 2000 dead children are not enough, how many do you want?
     
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    Lets test your theory. How about you wear a cross and a T-shirt saying "Islam is flawed" and tell me how tolerant they are in Jericho.

    You could do that every day in Israel and no one will bother you.
     
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    "such behavior".

    Of course that means being literally surrounded by murderous savages and living under the threat that one of them will run them over with a truck or blow them up with an IED or just launch a few missiles into their homes and still having the courage to get up every day and say "no, will we not be driven into the sea".
     
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...tian-churches-radical-Jewish-leader-says.html

    Asked if the government should set fire to churches - as hard-line Jewish extremists have done in recent times - he replied: "Not burn. They need to take them out. We don't have a place for churches here.... It's Jewish law. This is what God told us."

    Sure!
     
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    Try wearing a T-shirt that says "Judaism is the religion of hate" in Israel. Still no-one bothering you?
     
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    Yes the Israeli government ignored extremists, but the Palestinian government are the extremists! Just look at all the churches and synagogues in the surrounding region. Good point. Thank you.
     
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    You may be bothered, but not beheaded.
     
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    Yep, both sides suck. So why is my government involved in that conflict again?
     
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    well, its no more or less hateful than Christianity which says everyone who doesnt bow to Jesus burns in hell for eternity
     
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    Because just a tiny number of people agree with your frankly absurd "equivalency" between a tiny island of freedom and democracy surrounded by an enormous sea of barbarism, intolerance and hate and the government represents the views of the mainstream, not the fringe.... lest we forget that the US government's involvement is not military in nature, that its goal is peace and that the stability of this explosive region is among the US most vital interests.
     
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    The question is, how many kids do the troglodytes want to get killed by using them as human shields, since they aren’t capable of fighting without women/children standing IN FRONT of them.
     
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    I was just making a point about tolerance, which is neither here nor there. I find the Zionists and their fake moral high ground particulary annoying.

    Also Christianity was the first religion to actually not kill you if you didn't do what they wanted, but instead threaten you with (imaginary) bad things after death. That was a net progress back then.
     
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    Do not be shy, you said you wanted harsher retaliation from the Zionist scum, how many dead kids will make you happy?
     

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