Issa Pressed For Green Jobs Money

You're just being silly now.

You may not agree with the reasoning we've given you but that's the way it is.

And sane politician would do the same thing Issa did and I'm not going to hold it against him.

So you're sort of flogging a dead horse here.

 

Has anyone propose such a simple idea?

 

I agree with much of what you are saying, the problem being that 2012 regardless of results will only intensify the hyper-partisan attitude. Neither side is simply going to walk away and lick their wounds. They will work to disrupt or otherwise derail every policy they oppose.

I agree 100% with your assessment on those pesky foreigners. They are getting pretty uppity now, but indeed, they will rue the day!

 

Not anyone elected to office that I know of. Sad isn't it?

 

I did as far back as the 2010 campaign.

And I've been saying ever since, as recently as the debt ceiling limit debate.

But none of the politicians in Washington seem to think much of the idea.

 

I'm amazed you can make such a hypocritical statement as that

If it's wrong and doesn't work as Issa claims....it shouldn't change when it's his district!

Unless you're admitting it does work and is fine

 

But, someone needs to take that 1st step. Who has big enough balls to stand on principals.

 

It's too simple for the smartest people in the room to think of.

And if they can't take credit for it they aren't interested.

 

Anyone running in the primaries?

 

Look at the op. Issa obviously disagrees

 

Lol you first seems to be their motto

 

For the love of God man, I'm trying to be moderate and leave the hackery aside for a day, stop trying to drag me back in.

I'm saying compromise requires both sides to come together. Each must put something they cherish on the sacrificial alter and hack each other to bits until neither side is truly happy but sick of the fighting. The result will likely be a moderately crappy plan, but a start. We need a start, we can move forward from there.

 

Compromise on what????

The idea that govt CAN create jobs and it's not socialism?

 

You call it hypocritical but it isn't.

If government intervention into the private marketplace is wrong and doesn't work as Issa claims then the program should be canceled and the taxpayers given their money back.

Just letting Obama reward his friends with our money is not the answer.

 

Back in 06 when the R's were sent packing, that was their chance to come back and fix what went wrong. They were thrown out because of W. When they came back on 10, they came back with 1 purpose. Defeat bama at all costs. That is why the divide got greater. After 2012, I only see the divide getting further amongst the voters.
It may take a few more election cycles. We need to get the career politicians out and have a great turnover in congress and get some fresh younger faces in their.

 

IMO, if no one is talking across the board cuts, then no one is really for cutting anything. Just more political BS for us to argue about.

 

Gov't can create jobs, but it is only temporary. Demand will ultimately expand the jobs.
Can the gov't help, yes. But then get out of the way and let a company flourish if demand is there.

 

A few in congress are.

There is a bill or the idea for a bill being sponsored by Louis Gomert of Texas called HR 920 "Zero-Baseline Budget Act" on 2011.

It does away with the automatic spending increases in each new budget and cuts spending in real dollars by 2% per year till the budget is balanced.

And that will take less than 10 years to get there.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-920

 

I work for a small business, I know all too well the problems that must be faced. Expansion is so difficult and costly, we have been fortunate in the past two years and have grown substantially, doubling our size, but it comes at a great cost. This mess of a government is getting in the way.

One problem I see is the war on coal. We have coal, plenty of it, we should be using it. I would agree there should be strict standards on emissions, but we should not abandon coal or even reduce our use of it. At least if its used here there will be standards, exporting it to the third world puts the same coal to use without any safeguards, so its really sort of dumb plan to cut our use only to sell to others who don't care. I like the potential of geothermal, I would also like to see greater exploration in area of using ocean waves for power generation, we have plenty of coastline to use. More hydroelectric would be wise as well in my opinion. I don't have a problem with nuclear either. Wind and solar are way too unreliable and should only get cursory attention. I support big oil, because quite frankly we need it, but I don't oppose the research and development of alternatives so long as its done smartly and primarily in the private sector. Private sector R&D is the only way I can see that produce a profitable product with real market potential.

The other elephant that shows up on election day that is talked about and never addressed is immigration. We really need to do something about that as well. Although I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

No, I was thinking perhaps on spending, not jobs. We don't need any more stinking socialism (there, are you happy now?).

 

I'm trying to understand where your compromise comes in relation to the op....if I seem snarky it's because I don't see it

 

Its more complex than that. Both sides are equally guilty and both sides have had ample chances to compromise. Instead they took to the partisan warpath and we've been there ever since.

I think term limits would be a great step in fixing this problem.

 

Except what Issa wanted was to be able to reward his friends too I guess

 

I'm talking about the big picture. I've rather dismissed the OP, its sort of like pointing your finger in a hall of mirrors. We all know they are all hypocrites, its rather pointless to bicker about which ones are worse, isn't it?

 

Has there ever been a poll on how many americans would like term limits? It seems as there is a majority that feel that way. However, career politicians have to vote it in, not likely.
I remember Feingold stating while running for his 1st senate seat that he would go to DC to implement term limits, and that he himself would only stay for 2 terms. I think he got 3 terms before voted out and never got term limits implemented. I think he tried.

Neither side wants compromise. At least on the outside. All the talking points are just that, behind the curtain things are different and you see real compromise. It just benefits them and their donors and not us.