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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we already know what happened, it was a plan gone wrong by someone in our government, definitely not a Obama's Watergate, your dreaming
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how about the actual person that came up with and initiated the plan... which btw WAS NOT Obama

    you wanna know how many people have been harmed by the war on drugs over the decades, many... too many to count, time to end the war

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  3. 4Horsemen

    4Horsemen Banned

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    So what? He still used it. implemented it. ran with it. So he's just as GUILTY OF IT.

    If he was a REAL Man about his Change, He would't have gone along with it so his reputation would still be good.

    Obama's not ending a thing. bet on it. hope you don't think so.
     
  4. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Apparently you don't know what "and" means. By following "Obama" with "and..." I am blaming Obama, but I'm also being intelligent enough to acknowledge that one man with very limited (comparably) power is solely responsible for something that is 99% controlled by over 500 members of the REAL power in government: Congress.
     
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    Usually when somebody throws an "and" into the mix, they are trying to deflect the focus from the main culprit, which is Obama. He's ultimately at fault, forget the other minions. He's the last word.
     
  6. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Regardless of how idiots use it, "and" is a conjunction connecting two thoughts. "I ate ice cream and cake." "I like bikes, and monkeys, and girls."

    But no. While he most certainly deserves a portion of the blame, the facts still remain that President Bush "bushed" us into this economic crisis in the first place, and in both administrations Congress has worked behind the scenes for their own selfish gain to bring us all down.
     
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    And you actually believe that?...WOW.

    Bush1 didn't blame his entire term on Reagan's fk ups.
    Clinton didn't blame his entire term on Bush1 fk ups.
    Bush2 didn't blame his entire term on Clinton's fk ups.

    But yet, Barack Insane Obama can blame his entire term on the Bush2 fk ups?

    So it's safe to assert that when Obama's OWN policies wreck the nation even more in the coming years, will you then blame Obama alone or Bush2 again? because he's had 4 years to put his OWN policies in place, and he's done just that with executive orders, bullying congress, etc..


    for reference, these are Obama's dealings, not Bush2:

    Obamacare
    Stimulus 1 & 2
    Libya war
    Egypt uprising
    Afghan War still going
    Syrian war he's trying to get started
    Opening Gitmo
    Approving Gay marriage
    Not securing the borders
     
  8. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    If Obama blames Bush, why does he not reverse all the bush policies?
     
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  9. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Well, yes, because it's a fact.

    Bush 1 didn't blame Reagan because they were the same party and Bush 1 was Reagan's VP. Bush 2 DID blame Clinton for quite a lot.

    You are far over-exaggerating. All I've ever heard him blame Bush for is the state of the economy - which is valid.

    I will never blame Obama alone, just like I would never blame Bush alone or ANY politician alone, because I understand how politics and economics work in America.

    Bush 2 gave us the Medicare Modernization Act and trillions in unfunded liabilities.

    Bush 2: $170 billion stimulus

    Bush 2: Iraq, Afghanistan, drone strikes in Pakistan.

    1) How is that Obama's fault?
    2) Why is it a bad thing?

    He's kept it going on a lot less than Bush. Bush had it going on eight years.

    No different than Bush trying to get us into Iraq.

    Uh...BUSH opened Gitmo.

    How does that hurt the country?

    Bush didn't either.
     
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    Because they are identical and playing the same game?
     
  11. Taxcutter

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    If Obama fails to reverse Bush's policies then he cannot blame Bush without inherently blaming himself.

    Where does that buck stop?
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    *shrug* Nowhere, as long as We the People continue to support the system that keeps it going.
     

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