It ain't over.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by God & Country, Dec 11, 2020.

  1. CCitizen

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    This round has been lost. Hopefully, Alternative Media will grow due to Conservative discontent with Biden.
     
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    Well I can say it, and I am. And courts agree. Unless you can point me to one case where (a) fraud has been alleged and (b) proven.

    And I hate to break it to you, but the four corners of an affidavit don’t magically transform the conjecture and suspicion they contain into fact.

    For instance, lets’s take the man walking his dog in his neigborhood who who swore in an affidavit that he saw two large opaque bags being put in a postal van on election day, and believes they might have contained fraudulent ballots.

    Does the fact that his beliefs are contained in affidavit make them true? No. It’s speculation and suspicion, regardless.

    So yes, there may be hundreds and hundreds of affidavits, but so what? They’re all variations on the same theme. Honest beliefs, yes, that people are prepared to swear to, but speculation and conjecture nonetheless - and repeatedly rejected as such by the courts.

    Ditto the exercises in voodoo math about spikes and anomalies.

    Ditto a 90-second clip from hours and hours of video which viewed in it’s entirety clearly debunks the claims of nefarious activity.

    Ditto the claim that 3% of Arizona ballots were tainted and fraudulent. In reality, these were duplicate ballots - a grand total of 9 - which extrapolated would add about 195 votes to Trump’s grand total, and about 90 to Biden.

    And on and on and on - endless suspicion and conjecture but never any actual proof.
     
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  3. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully President Trump would build a Free Speech Social Media platform. With his resources, such platform would be unsinkable.
     
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    Yeah, like the OP. Smh
     
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    Unsinkable? Strange term.
     
  6. CCitizen

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    I mean a Social Media network large enough not to be deplatformed.

    If Enemies of Freedom succeed, then Parler, Minds, Bitchute, etc. would be driven offline and there would be no place for dissent.
     
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    Just like his university, casinos, etc. Yup...”unsinkable”
     
  8. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    A website needs much less money then that other stuff.
     
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    How does one deplatform a social media company?
     
  10. CCitizen

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    Any website can be taken offline if they are de-platformed by Internet Provider. But if the site has enough money, then a provider will always be found.

    If Enemies of Freedom succeed, then Parler, Minds, Bitchute, etc. would be driven offline and there would be no place for dissent.
     
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    You repeat yourself. What I'm asking is how they do it. Telling me who deplatforms doesn't tell me how
     
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    Ridiculous and false. The impeachment allegations were easily proven. That is why the final defense of the republican senators was, "He did it, but he should not be removed from office for it." Pay attention!
     
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    Vailhundt Banned

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    Just one little.problem:

    Nobody would want to advertise there. Gold scams and survival kit ads wont bring much revenue.
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Ugh it's over, Trump needs to stay out of 2024.
     
  15. CCitizen

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    I do not know. Perhaps Donald Trump Junior and Ivanka Trump will be presidents.

    Now the main battle is preserving Free Speech. As long as sites like Parler, Gab, NewsMax exist, Dissent will exist.
     
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    What does Free Speech mean to you?
     
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    What makes you think either could become president? 74 million votes and Trump still got beaten like a drum. They have been rebuked.
     
  18. CCitizen

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    1) This is a very complicated question which has many aspects.

    2) In terms of Free Speech in regards to Internet, I mean an existence of an online space where every political idea allowed by the First Amendment can be expressed. As long as Parler, Gab, Bitchute exist, we have Freedom. If they are taken offline, then Online Freedom would be a thing of the past.
     
  19. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It ain't over.

    Apparently this nitwit didn't think so.

    "A former Houston police captain convinced of a vast conspiracy to steal the election allegedly ran a man off the road and held him at gunpoint, believing there were thousands of illegal ballots in the back of the man’s box truck.

    In fact, Mark Anthony Aguirre’s alleged victim was an ordinary air conditioner repairman, prosecutors say. There was nothing fishy in the back of his truck, nor in the repairman’s home in a nearby mobile home community in Houston, which Aguirre said he and others had surveilled for four days straight, police said."
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...gunpoint-convinced-he-was-voter-fraud-kingpin
     

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