It seems like this needs to be done

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jun 29, 2020.

  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Already have. Pay attention. And based on your posts, seems you need to be told too
     
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    It was called the Southern Strategy.

    "In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party rather than the Republican Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right.[4]"

    Please note the last sentence. Republicans started out as reformers. The East Coast Establishment that ran the Republican party back then even had a couple liberals.

    Do I need to point out you and your ilk are the opposite of that??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
     
  3. quiller

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    Suggest you closely check the next ballot you get or are handed at the polls. Unless you aren't a registered U.S. voter, in which case stop reading.

    There are more than just Republicans on that ballot, in all states, without exception. That said, what would Dems become after being broken up as the criminal trust it has been now for decades? I stop short of saying fertilizer, but anything less than prison is insufficient (cf. John Roberts, Okenyancare, cf. Adam Schiff witch-hunt, cf. Mueller investigation, millions wasted and nothing except Democrat treachery could be found).

    Unfortunately the very-un-Democratic Party will probably just join some splinter bunch like American Socialists, or Labor, or some other group they can steamroll and browbeat like they do at every election, ever. They will not allow the smaller earlier group to remain in power. Unionists taught them that.

    Should we interfere in their demise, having broken from the mainstream Dems, now calling themselves Blue Dog Dems and with some respect deserved for not accepting the mainstream party jive.

    But overall, the Dems' internal class struggle is too fascinating to interfere with: it's like Kimodo Dragons in a pit, entertaining mayhem complete with chunks of flying flesh and agonized screams. Bless their little hearts...lying in shreds or gulped down whole, it's all good TV.

    Honesty? Look how the Donks handle available time with their own candidate, fully aware of his mental decline. It's now approaching half of all voters do not believe the claim that Biden isn't senile. Would it be unfair to say Biden's run before and they didn't want him, but any sacrifice candidate will do until AOC is old enough to make her own comedy tour for our endless amusement.
     
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    Respectfully, I disagree. Cultural history is always verbal first, written second, debated endlessly third. It cannot be done to force any group to forget its own past. What should instead be done is give black youth the drive to succeed instead of refusing to enter what the radicals insist is the white man's world of business. It's that "Acting White" stuff that defies common sense. There are now too many black billionaires to not find examples of what I mean.
     
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    Wince, Dixie, you got spared by her drive-through. Imagine her as governor of Georgia.
     
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    Right, I forget how formidable the Libertarian and Green parties are what with the 4.4M and 1.4M votes respectively received in last elections. And this is coming from someone who voted third party in last election.
     
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    You must be dreaming. You have not told anyone.
     
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    Never happened. This is an unsubstantiated claim.
     
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    But only democrats seceded because they wanted to expand slavery. Very progressive.....lolz!
     
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    Take away the top liberal contender, a sea-change will become a tsunami in voter registration changes. The Whigs gave way to the Republicans. Things change in politics for as reason. A party pushes too far in any one (or several directions at once like the Dems) and chaos results. People stop voting, making it easier to cheat with graveyard voters and harvested ballots.
     
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    They seceded because they wanted to keep slavery. As in not change things. As in hold traditional attitudes and values. Which is the very definition of 'conservative'
     
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    The Dem party isn't going anywhere as it's too entrenched. I'll just keep voting third party as I can't stand the entrenched Repubs or Dems.
     
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    Slavery was never in the Republican platform and you are patently dishonest for suggesting it. The same for your ridiculous dictionary definition.

    It was Democrats who adored cheap labor. They always have, just look at how Cesar Chavez had to shame them into paying better wages.
     
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    Caterpillar makes a wonder trench-digger. Voters can do it too. Vote the dirtbags out.
     
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    Hillary is from wherever she needs to be to get that area's votes.
     
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    Where did I say slavery was in the Repub platform?
    I have said it was southern conservatives who fought for slavery. That isn't debatable. We all know the Dem party was the party of conservatives in mid/late 1800s who fought to keep slavery.
     
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    Again, total of 5.8M votes for Libertarian and Green party last election. Seems there aren't all that many people interested in voting out either of the two stronghold parties
     
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    And somehow adopts a regional accent wherever she is. She is such a fraud
     
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    Political parties are a cancer.
     
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    What you say is what you say. That's not debatable. We do not all know whatever nonsense was stuffed into the heads of public-school kids. Economics drove succession. Slavery from the Southern viewpoint was secondary AT BEST and in reality probably far down the list for the average white Southerner dealing with his or her own issues with the powerful landowners of the era.
     
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    It's how we punish ourselves, just voting them in.
     
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    And that was while the Dems still existed. My point specifically addresses what they would morph into after being disbanded as a party. Individual former Dems would migrate. It's what American politics has always been like.
     
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    So, are we talking slavery or are we talking respect?
     
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    Born and raised in the Chicago suburbs? Sorry, not the south. LOL.
     

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