It's costing peanuts for the USA to destroy Russia.

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  1. LibDave

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    Interesting. I found Iran Contra fascinating too. And how in the hell was that considered illegal for the Reagan administration to do? To me it was brilliant and just made common sense. I understand the constitutional conflicts, but to me it seemed like it just made horse-sense.
     
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    I was in uniform at the time. Lots of folks were really angry. Those TOW missiles were part of our war stocks. Lots of time and effort was spent figuring out how many TOW missiles we needed for our own defense. When we gave so many away, it upset the apple cart.
     
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    30 years of continuous cheap supply says you've got no clue what you're actually typing
     
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    Self defense
     
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    Iagree, Ukraine did host a military coup 8 years ago.
     
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    Yes, eventually it will be.
     
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    No, YOU are paying for it, EVERY euro/USA (NATO members) civilian is paying for it with the recent tax hikes.
     
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    Putin has been planning this invasion gas years ago the day Europe started heavily relying on Russian. It is the dumbass politicians in Europe who chose money reality. Some day, the Saudi's will do the same to the USA. When that happens, the Democrats will be sorry they crippled US Gas Production.
     
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    Your former customers all disagree and they will no longer buy from Russia because Russia is unreliable. Fact.

    Enjoy your economic depression because you earned it.
     
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    The US players Obama, McCain, Nuland, Kerry and many more planned this in 2014, and took overt actions to accomplish it.
     
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    Yes, most of it will be but it would also have to be replaced if it was simply demolished too. Unless the weapon system was being retired, of course. A lot of the excess war stocks got cut drastically in the 1990's so even before Russia invaded Ukraine they were down by 2/3rds. IMHO we need to be ready for a multi-year war with Communist China as well so we really do need to build stocks back up.

    Take 155mm artillery shells as an example. The US had 4 million in stock in 2012 down from 10 million but just Ukraine is using up to 10,000 per day (average is closer to 6000). We went through 1 million in just half a year. If the US was fmitself fighting then burn rates would be even higher yet we only produced 50,000 in 2019 and right now it will take a year to two years to get production up to 100,000 per year.

    We need to have enough stocks to bridge that 1-2 year gap where production is getting ramped up. Major wars consume ammo like no tomorrow so we really do need to restore the stocks of ammo back to 1990's levels.
     
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    Yes, we planned to help ensure that Ukraine would have an actual legit election in 2014 because we knew that it would mean that the Russian puppets were kicked out on their asses.

    You know, the same Russian puppets who were in control when all the Nazi **** you bots love to talk about was allowed to go on.
     
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    The Mafiosi can provide security $$$ on their own....now...on the entire southern flank.

    US/NATO being there for 20 odd years was a blessing in disguise for Dwarfstan.
     
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    They can't buy from Russia because our government put sanctions on them. Anybody who does business with them will be prosecuted. We are now all living in a recession with unaffordable energy prices because USA wants total control over the energy market and is willing to literally sacrifice millions of Europeans who will die of pneumonia all because of USA greed. Thanks uncle Sam!
     
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    That is their fault for letting the Green Weenies take over and guilt them into buying from a Russian supplier.
    The voted for this with their eyes open.
     
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    Oil is around 75$ per gallon. Around the same price it was in August 2018 and August of 2007.
     
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    Lol.

    Per yearly basis, we are spending more on Ukraine than we did in Iraqi.

    There is a global food shortage. Global energy shortage. European countries struggle to heat their homes. And the US as well

    "As the first frigid weather of autumn chills the Northeast, many people are faced with a tough decision: deal with the surging costs of heating their homes or live without it.

    Home heating prices are skyrocketing yet again this winter, up 18% nationwide on top of last year's 17% spike, according to the National Energy Assistance Directors Association (NEADA)."

    Yeh. "Peanuts"
     
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    We've been buying from Russia for decades. Russia basically owned London. It was a mutual relationship between Russia and London banks that backfired. Nothing to do with wieners
     
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    That's grate!


    I'm talking about gas though, not candy bars.
     
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    Maybe Russia figured that the US would run out of reserve ammunition before they did.
     
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    natural gas prices aren't really any higher than their average from 2003 to 2008.
     
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    An undercurrent in US government is a push for reorganizing to face an expected confrontation with China. First is to clean out our inventory of “last years” weapons and restock.
    China will take Taiwan without a fight, but we will be in an economic and cyber war with them, sporadic shooting will happen.
    China is itching for a fight and sidelining Russia is a good thing. Iran is all hat and no cattle. Noko is not suicidal.
    Xi Jinping is a creature of days gone buy. It won’t take long to topple their economy forcing Xi to fall or fight. The CCP won’t fight.
     
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    So why are consumers paying quadruple of what they did last year?
     
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    Well yeah, it's pretty obvious.

    What's the point in making bullets if you're not going to use them..

    USA is just a war machine, a rogue nation.
     
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