It's Paid For With More Taxes On You

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Seems Elizabeth Warren wants Medicare for all and it was brought up in Tuesday night's debate. Some of the other candidates asked her if she would raise taxes to cover the cost but Warren refused to answer. Even the moderator tried to get a yes or no from Warren with no luck. Think back when every candidate raised their hand that they were for free healthcare for all illegal aliens. No one wanted to discuss how that was going to be paid for.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes! Assuming "You" are a millionaire.
     
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    I believe she said a few times that she would not sign a bill into law that raised the overall burden on the middle class.

    If a national healthcare program costs less in taxes than the middle class pays for in premiums and deductibles then it is a net positive.

    I can understand her hesitation in trying to explain it due to the trump campaign spinning it to his low information base. They are already going to lie cheat and steal to try and win — no need to give them video clips to distort.
     
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    When Democrats say Medicare for all, they mean Medicare for everyone on earth paid for by Americans.

    Raise your hand if you want Americans to pay for the healthcare and welfare of any foreign national that makes it to America...
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    Yes because rich people would never find ways to pass the costs but onto the poor.............
     
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    You'll pay a few more dollars a month in taxes, but you won't be paying that expensive health insurance premium. With universal healthcare, you'll come out with more money in your pocket.
     
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    Yes rich people will..... Who owns most businesses?
     
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    And healthcare will be like the DMV. You will compete with everyone, including foreign nationals, for care you used to get. There isn't enough doctors etc to provide free healthcare for everyone on earth.

    All it will do is lower American living standards, which Democrats believe are to high.
     
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    Don't forget Democrats want to provide this healthcare to any foreign national that makes it to America. You will have to compete with the world for healthcare you pay for.
     
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    But that's false, because that doesn't happen in other developed nations where universal healthcare exists. Canadian hospitals are actually more efficient than ours.
     
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    More right-wing lies.
     
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    Does Canada allow foreign nationals to access their healthcare? If I sneak into Canada, will they treat my cancer?
     
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    I don't think you understand what single-payer healthcare is.
     
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    No. And why do you guys think anyone supports this?
     
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    Every Democrat running says they will cover any foreign national that makes it to America.

    Why deny it?

    Raise your hand if you want Americans to pay for the healthcare and welfare of any foreign national that makes it to America...
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    Because Democrats all claim their healthcare plans cover any foreign national that makes it to America.
     
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    I think you'd better actually read their platforms, which can be accessed from their respective websites. Right-wing memes aren't informed sources.
     
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    You didn't mention that these taxes will replace healthcare premiums out of pocket.
     
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    I don't think you understand that the rich always pass the costs on in some form like employing less people to offset their loses through taxation.
     
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    It wasn't a meme the candidates themselves said just that
     
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    Are you calling all those Democrats raising their hands liars?

    I think it is you who doesn't know what Democrats propose.
     
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    OK Elizabeth.
     
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    Plus your 20% out of pocket and drugs, unless you want to pay high premiums for supplemental coverage, plus high taxes
     
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    I'm already getting a 20% out of pocket with my existing insurance. Some insurance is 30% out of pocket and can have deductibles going as high as $6,000. So we replace the premium with the tax. I'd like to see what the tax is going to be compared to the premium.
     
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    Who pays for most insurance now. Business.

    But having said that. I still like Biden, Pete the best. Put it out there as an option and watch it take over the industry.
     
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