I've grown tired of the repeated disinformation about collusion.

That is the bottom line. No evidence.

 

And what you do not understand is that if you cannot prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, then it did not legally happen. That's the way it has to be.

As you just said. The Trump Campaign did not conspire with the Russians to rig the election. Ohh. And the stolen emails had no affect on the election.

On the other hand, thank you Russian for letting us know what a horrible job Democrats do at securing sensitive information.

 

Not surprisingly, you've missed the point. Being unable to prove a legally defined criminal conspiracy based on the evidence Mueller was able to obtain (because some witnesses withheld evidence and or lied about it) does not change the factual record concerning what both the Russians and the campaign did to achieve a mutually beneficial end (collusion).

IOW, harping on the aspect of a criminal conspiracy willfully ignores the ample evidence that the Russians and the campaign cooperated with each other. Something that is abhorrent to people who rightly view encouraging and accepting Russian interference in our election as a traitorous act.

 

You are missing the point. It was not proved...

 

Except the Russians didn't interfere. They may have tried, but no one changed their vote on account of what they did.

The incompetence of democrats in Miami Dade transporting and counting votes is much more troubling.
As is the DNC's inability to secure their information.

Best solution? Democrats need to run a candidate who's not an insane socialist who wants to crap on the constitution.

 

Yes, I know how it works. Just saying that I don't agree with Mueller's assessment, and neither do a long list of current and former federal prosecutors. I especially disagree with his decision that let's Junior off with that "too stupid to indict" nonsense.

 

NO COLLUSION, IT WAS A HOAX... FACT

 

If nothing else Mueller's decision not to indict Donnie J reveals the burden of having to be able to assign a monetary value on the kind of help Russia was offering to provide to the Trump campaign is undo. Something House Dems tried to fix but are being blocked by..........McTreason.........naturally.

 

I have no doubt you'll go to your grave believing that deluded, factually inaccurate notion. Which is why Billy the Bagman planted it in your head in the first place.

 

Prove it. Mueller didn't.

 

Mueller did prove it. If you want to have your delusions shattered read the report.

AP FACT CHECK: Trump, Barr distort Mueller report findings
https://apnews.com/f9c0ab20229140f18ea34e1f15a9f597

The report noted that some Trump campaign officials had declined to testify (Donnie J refused to testify and his lying sack of shyte of a father refused to answer questions regarding obstruction) under the 5th Amendment or had provided false or incomplete testimony, making it difficult to get a complete picture of what happened during the 2016 campaign. The special counsel wrote that he “cannot rule out the possibility” that unavailable information could have cast a different light on the investigation’s findings.

The report also makes clear the investigation did not assess whether “collusion” occurred because it is not a legal term. The investigation found multiple contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia, and the report said it established that “the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

 

Actually mueller said it was about intent

 

If Mueller proved it Trump would be in prison. Mueller couldn't inspite of an fbi trying to frame the administration.

You are the one distorting things.

Mueller says in black and white clear as crystal. They found no conspiracy between the Trump Campaign and the Russians to rig the election.
You can make all the assumptions you want based on evidence you do not have but that just speaks poorly of your character.

 

Id be tired too if I posted the same thing over and over and...

 

That's why I'm tired, because you folks keep posting the same factually inaccurate assertions about Mueller's findings.

 

LOL Same here

 

You should accept the truth and let go. Denial isn't a healthy practice. The lie is like an anchor and it will drag you down. I will watch it drag you down. It will be fun to watch it drag you down. I am a sadist.

 

Nobody doubts Bill Clinton was guilty of perjury, sensible people doubt convoluted concepts like 'collusion' and 'quid pro quo'...

 

In sum, the investigation established multiple links between Trump Campaign officials and
individuals tied to the Russian government. Those links included Russian offers of assistance to
the Campaign. In some instances, the Campaign was receptive to the offer, while in other instances
the Campaign officials shied away. Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the
Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference

 

Trumpette's, not sensible people, doubt simple concepts like collusion and QPQ because of the exhaustive efforts of Trump and right wing media to muddy the waters. For the rest of us who just look at the indisputable factual record there are plenty of examples of collusion (like handing over proprietary, internal polling data to a Russian operative or taking a meeting to get information about Hillary from the Russian government) and a QPQ (the Zelensky call for which we have an edited transcript).

I get that you folks don't like to be ridiculed for believing in a steaming pile of BS. It makes you uncomfortable to have to face the facts. It's just that we are never going to be able to have informed debates until you do. How can we as a nation move forward with reforms to prevent the kinds of things candidate Trump did in concert with Russia from happening again if you can't bring yourselves to admit they happened?

 

Good grief... goodbye..... have fun in your own little world...

 

Maybe Lee can convince Mitt Romney...

 

Maybe he can convince Robert Mueller.

 

Fact:
Obama was the one who backdoored the Koch-Glitsch (Italia) pipeline equipment through a Burisma/Gazprom transaction that Putin used in his South Stream gas line going into the Crimea at the very same time that sanctions were in place.

 

The facts often frustrate Trump supporters. Almost as much as Big Fat Don himself.