I've Now Read 100% of the Redacted Report | My Final Word

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  1. RodB

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    I know he did but Rosenstein did not have legal authority to assign Manafort to Mueller. Rosenstein was quite loose and free (and outside the law) with his appointment letter.
     
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    Indeed.

    Mueller.........."If I could have exonerated Don I would have."

    The Following.........."Mueller exonerated the Dear Leader."
     
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    Mueller’s most sweeping charges are unlikely to lead to any convictions. In 2018, he charged the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, with meddling in the 2016 election.

    To the remainder of your paragraph I say. :roflol:
     
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    Fox is in fact no worse than any other news service we have in that regard. And please note the lion share of corporate money with few exceptions has gone to Democratic candidates for decades now. Why you ask? Pretty damn obvious really whole the lying sacks of **** you call democrats are always bad mouthing corporations they cheerfully regulate their smaller competitors out of existence.
     
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    Meanwhile to most not being charged is the same as exoneration...
     
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    I guess Trump could have take it to court but.

    According to the Code of Federal Regulations, there are grounds to appoint a special counsel if an investigation into a matter “would present a conflict of interest for the Department [of Justice] or other extraordinary circumstances” and in cases when it “would be in the public interest” to have an outside counsel.

    Independent or special counsels are appointed to investigate executive branch officials, and the existing federal code empowers the attorney general to make the determination when a special counsel is necessary.
     
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    It's utterly amazing what Trumpists try to pass off for facts these days.
     
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    Don't like how reality functions tough.
     
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    Agreed. We just went thru three years with punitive federal investigations based on false assumptions of what imagined criminal acts Trump might theoretically be capable of. now the Democrats shift seamlessly into more false assumptions of what imagined criminal acts Trump might theoretically be capable of.

    This is why Trump will sail thru to a 2020 reelection. I hope the crazy Democrats keep this up, finally showing the nation who and what they are. no more hiding behind masks, pretending to be the calm, freedom loving, considerate, empathetic, fun loving Democrats, and showing us the lunatic left in it's true colors.
     
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    Like accusing Trump of colluding with Bigfoot, when Trump knows there was no Bigfoot, and he certainly did not collude with it. Then when Trump mocks the stupid Bigfoot collusion hoax, and the Dems try and make his comment into obstruction of justice, we see how ludicrous this all has become.
     
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    Except that Trump was the one under investigation, the mob enforcer isn't. This whole farce was predicated on 'collusion' and without collusion there can be no obstruction...
     
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    and....

    "Glenn Simpson, a former Wall Street Journal reporter and co-founder of Fusion GPS, was with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at a Manhattan federal courtroom just hours before the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, Fox News reported, citing a source. He met with her again after the meeting, the report said."

    Firm behind Trump dossier met with Russian lawyer involved in Trump Jr. meeting
     
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    Like accusing me of obstructing an investigation in my supposed collusion with Bigfoot, when we all know there was no Bigfoot, much less any collusion.

    It was a three year fraud of an investigation on the people, let it die. Now we need to punish the people who violated our laws, and abused their positions in government, to engage in this fraud.

    My guess is this goes all the way up to Obama, how could he not have been involved.
     
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    Good luck with that! You must be new. :grin:
     
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    Obama "may" have plausible deniability. However, the FBI texts reveal and verify he demanded to be "kept informed". There's no denying that.
     
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    Now congressional oversight is a witch hunt too....Interesting.
     
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    Truthfully the only witch uncovered in all this was Hillary. Her day in court is coming. :banana:
     
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    That is all correct, and well and good. But the code also explicitly defines the ground rules and guides for appointing a special counsel, and it is in this area that Rosenstein took loose liberties and went outside the law.
     
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    What would you call subpoenaing a decades worth of tax returns just to see if you can find something that looks untoward in one of them.. Or subpoenaing past business associates of all stripes just to see if you can get them to say something that sounds negative that maybe you could latch onto...... like as a witch?
     
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    Really?

    § 600.1 Grounds for appointing a Special Counsel.
    The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and -

    (a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and

    (b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.

    I think he was good as gold.
     
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    Interesting...…………...

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    Especially your BLOTUS's "alt facts" AKA lies!

    :roflol:
     
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    WRONG!

    The Trump CAMPAIGN was under investigation, NOT your BLOTUS!
     
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    Wrong!

    Rosenstein did nothing of the sort and you have ZERO evidence and you have FAILED to produce anything to support this BOGUS allegation of yours.
     
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    Dear @Primus Epic
    Are you defining the two points that do not Square Logically as
    A. the RUSSIAN govt side perceived and expected to benefit from Trump's election, and that the Trump campaign "saw" that benefit
    B. the Trump campaign CONSPIRED with the Russian govt to interfere with the election campaigns (knowing the benefit in A)

    What is wrong with "just because both sides perceived of such a benefit"
    then it still may not be proveably found that the TRUMP campaign CONSPIRED with the RUSSIAN Govt.

    Just having awareness there is a benefit to Russia doesn't necessitate having CONSPIRED.

    After all, it isn't illegal for Russia to LEGALLY interfere with the election campaigns,
    only to ILLEGALLY interfere such as by committing FRAUD and misrepresentation.
    The CONTENT and MEANS of interfering determine legal from illegal levels of media manipulations.
     
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