J.C Penney customer racist tirade caught on video!

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are the people who are criticizing this woman the same people who are defending the guy who verbally abused Ivanka Ztrump?
     
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    I hate it when people cut in line. I understand the frustration. The lady most likely isn't racist...she was Mad and motivated to insult.

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    It's obvious the dark skinned Indians in India have different DNA than Europeans, right? I mean, isn't that obvious?
     
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    I don't know. They have Caucasian features.

    Maybe it's because the old white supremacist yarn about "Mongoloid-Caucasoid-Negroid" is false and instead the world has several hundred ethnicities and zero "races".
     
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    Uh huh

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    It's called the human condition. Old age, senility along with fear produce some emotional paroxysms . I can see the difference to a true threat and some crabby senior, mainly because I am not handicapped by the dysfunction called political ideology. I have sympathy for the poor dear but none for the self-righteous.
     
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    Some Indians have Haplogroup R1a that is common in Slavic people. In India, high frequencies of this haplogroup is observed in the upper castes such as West Bengal Brahmins (72%) and Konkanastha Brahmins (48%). The dark skinned Indians in India are mostly in the lower castes.
     
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    Ok, I finally made it to the end of this thread. ><"

    I saw this video on facebook and I was also wondering whether it was actually racist. I didn't expect to find a thread about it, but thanks to this I think I can discern what's actually happening.

    I disclose that I do not support Trump, however, I don't think associating Trump to this incident is justified.

    Questions to consider:
    1) Were the hispanic ladies' actions wrong?
    2) Have you ever done something similar?
    3) Was the older woman's anger justified?
    4) Was her response adequate or uncalled for?

    First, I question whether the two hispanic ladies' actions were truly wrong. Whenever I go out shopping with friends or family, we work as a team (almost like playing a sport). We all spread out to search for what we came for and converge on the check-out line. However, there is little point in having each of us standing in line if we're leaving together. In fact, if the lines are observed to get large before we're done, a person may be assigned the task of waiting in line for the rest of us while we finish shopping. If something is forgotten, or one of us decides to make a last minute addition, they run out to get the item and back for check-out. I understand how someone may interpret this as "cutting in line" when they have not witnessed all the behind-the-scenes planning.

    With that said, if it is observed that these two ladies were clearly not together and happen to run into each other, then I wouldn't be comfortable watching the latter join her friend in line. But how do we make that distinction?

    Second. Were the ranting lady's comments truly racist?

    Merriam-Webster on Racism: (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)
    "A belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."

    Merriam-Webster on Discrimination: (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discrimination)
    "The act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually"

    Conclusion: I think she was a bit racist.

    Without knowing anything about the two ladies in front of her, she told them &#8220;Just because you come from another country..." and "go back to wherever the f&#8212; you come from"
    This is not racist, but it is discriminatory. How does she know they weren't born in the US? What if they were making purchases on behalf of their family members who DO live in the country? With that comment, she has potentially stripped them from their identity and dismissed them as aliens. As an American born hispanic, I would have been personally angered if her comment were towards me.

    To me, everything else she said sounds like the ranting of an angry lady who feels wronged. The comment that stands out to me: "Probably on welfare. The taxpayers probably paid for all that stuff.&#8221;

    This is where the racism kicks in. Following the same rhetoric, she continues to alienate the hispanic women -not only that, but she now feels superior and makes assumptions about their living-conditions based a very limited information.

    Lastly, does Trump instigate this? There is no evidence, and I don't believe so. We live in a society where everyone now possesses phones, and with it, media at their fingertips. I think "racism" is just filmed more often now. It was always there.

    I think we're all mostly victims of something called "Confirmation Bias". Here is a small article about it: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/science-choice/201504/what-is-confirmation-bias

    And here is a concise definition I like from Wikipedia: "Confirmation Bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses, while giving disproportionately less consideration to alternative possibilities."
     
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    I don't put up with my grandpas awful behaviour. Neither do his kids. He's an awful person who sounds just like this lady. He can live the rest of his pathetic life alone. Maybe he will learn not to judge people based on his bias. Maybe he won't. But life is too short to put up with those people. Old or young, irrelevant. If society is moving too fast for him then that's on him not me.
     

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