Jayland Walker suffered at least 60 wounds in fatal police shooting, Akron police chief says,

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  1. HurricaneDitka

    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

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    You are still plainly wrong about this. Jayland Walker will never commit another criminal act again. He has been very effectively stopped from being a criminal.

    That doesn't mean it's just ok to shoot every criminal we find, but trying to deny that it's an effective resolution to the problem of their criminality is trying to deny reality.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? This is the reality in "the rest of the western world" too.

    This was Denmark, three days ago: Denmark in shock as gunman kills three at Copenhagen shopping mall | Reuters

    This was in Norway the week before that: Horror on Oslo Pride day as gunman goes on deadly rampage at gay bar | Reuters

    Earlier this year, Germany had a school shooting at Heidelberg University.

    Are those countries in "the rest of the western world" just not banning guns enough to stop these incidents? What did Germany, Norway, and Denmark do wrong? Did they not value human life enough? And do you feel sorry for their children too, or are you just laser-focused on banning guns in America?
     
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    Yes, I do like living in the US. You know what?....lots of others do to. You know what else?....people risk their lives and spend years on waiting lists to get here. There's a reason for it.

    You can spew out all the talking points (lies) you want that might sound great in your fantasy land, but the facts speak for themselves. People want to live here more than anywhere else in the world so maybe, just maybe, it's not that bad.
     
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    Sometimes you have to shoot them a lot
     
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    When they are already disabled?
    That is seriously gruesome.
     
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    It's not like they found him lying in the gutter and blasted him for sport. He was fleeing, after having shot at them. He turned around and appeared to present a threat to them again, so they fired, over the course of ~7 seconds. That course of fire adequately ended the threat. They didn't continue shooting him after that.
     
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    60 wounds
    This is nuts.
    Overkill.
    Police festival.
    Look. It is your slaughter
    Your sense of limits. Of blood organs and brains lying on a surface.
    Dod he deserve this?
     
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    Life isn't all rainbows and unicorns
     
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    He most certainly did. If you had the required background this would make sense, you don't.
     
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    Did he deserve it? I do not know but he shot at the police so he earned it.
     
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    This is exactly why you don't understand what I mean.
    First not every person who fires at the police deserve to be assassinated. They deserve to stand trial.
    Secondly it is less about the police firing at him and far more about HOW. I am more concerned about the immense overkill which indicates to me a lamentable attitude to life and law . IMO an indication of the poor quality of police training and in here, the lack of à civilised relationship with modération.
    And that is my last word on the subject.
     
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    Yup.
    A black man flees for it's life, and gets executed by getting 60 warning shots in the back.
    And somewhere else they captured a white mass murderer alive without a shot being fired.


    White people punching cops in the face on jan the 6th, no problem. The cops will accept it from a white person.
    But a black man fleeing... this is where a cop "fears of it's life". The fear is gone when they are sure the black man is dead.


    This is Murica where the life of a black person isn't worth the same as a white person.
    Or at least this is how the predominantly white police force does what it does.
    And it's backed up by a group of predominantly white people.

    Has the culture in the US changed since the apartheid era ended?
    Or is it so, that a culture that was present for centuries isn't gone in 1 generation?
     
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    Perfect example of the folks that make up the bad gun owner! Anyone that can justify a person discharging a firearm in public and or at another person should never own a firearm and never debate them, it's that simple!
     
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    The cops shot at this white man 59 times for pointing an empty bb gun at them.

    Now what?

     
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    Hahaha! You were not there so how can you say anything about what happened. Sorry but if you shoot at police you will pay the price.

    I accept your surrender......60 times.
     
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    Aha. So basically you are asking me what the difference is between an unarmed black man fleeing and white person aiming what looks like a weapon at the cops.... because apparently it's all and the same to you and you need help.


    Well SiNNik.
    If I look beyond the color of the skin, I do see a massive difference.
     
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    First you refer to a Black man as "it" and then you gloss over that young lady who was shot in the Capital on 1/6 and she didn't even have a gun so it's certain she didn't shoot first.

    Maybe neither of these people were killed because of their color or from prejudice but from terrible mistakes in judgement they made. Not just the one that finally got them killed but the string of options they chose that led them to that place in their lives.
     
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    It’s more fun when you start the post by lying. He was armed, it wasn’t known until later he left it in the car. There is nothing wrong with shooting a dangerous fleeing felon, it happens all the time. But this one is a black guy so no matter what he did, you’ll do the virtue signaling dance.

    Since this is lawful, why do the dance? You look like you still don’t know the law.
     
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    Your guy guilty of actually shooting at the cops. If you present a threat as both of these guys did, you're going to be shot at, and maybe successfully.
     
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    You're confusing the us police with French police maybe. Us police are nothing more than a street gang but with a liscence to kill. They are thugs and the more racist you are the higher up the chain of command you go.
     
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    I also am referring to cops as "it", instead of he/she.

    Ah sure. Let's not gloss over.....
    1000's of cops get assaulted by white people, 100's of them cops got injured: result 1 bullet got fired at the white people.
    1 unarmed black person flees. No cop got hurt: result: over 60 bullets were fired at that 1 black person.

    Are you now happy I plainly put it down what the massive difference is in how cops react to skin color?

    So you are arguing that those 60 bullets were shot fired by some kind of accident, like Bob Ross has little happy accidents painting. Seriously. What the hell. These cops received vigorous training to be able to do this job. At best this sounds like you're actually saying them cops are incompetent, and through their incompetence they got a person killed. It's murder and they should just accept the consequences of their poor choices they made that go along with killing a person by accident. They are surely also not fit to be cops. The training did not help. The public isn't safe with people who make such mistakes. People got fired for less.
     
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    I didn't intend to debate the Jan 6 issue, just to point out that cops do shoot white people during arrest and conflict. Read your post, you did call a black man "it" as well as your cop statement. Actually neither of them is an "it", both are people.
     
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    Hilarious fabrication.
     
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    Yes, he earned it by making it known that he was a danger to the police and the public and not very conspicuously surrendering afterwards.
     
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    Completely false claim number 1 and number 2.

    Learn about something before you speak on it. It will save you from looking ignorant.

    Plenty of blacks get captured with no shots fired too. You think you have a point here, but you don't.

    They didn't accept it at all. In fact, one was shot and killed over it despite being unarmed. They also didn't shoot at the police (kind of in important distinction here).

    He had already shot at them. If you have to leave out that inconvenient little fact, it shows how piss poor your argument is.

    Anti white racism. It really makes you look brilliant so keep it up.
     
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