JDVance: 'MTGreene said nothing wrong'

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You accuse?

    Then quote.

    Don't ask me a question based on quotes you haven't quoted.

    Sorry, I don't play that game.
     
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    Truth hurts. Don't it?
     
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    Is this the new thing, "pettifogging?" Well it beats "whataboutism."

    Anyway I didn't make a big thing about "jewish space lasers," you guys did. I just noted it because it seemed to most ridiculous and you to your credit, seem to confirm that. Although you did want to seem to hang on to the Rothschild's comment. So maybe you can see why I would want to see actual quotes instead of simply trusting what's told to me about somebody saying something.

    Anyway, as long as you guys stick to the "no enemies on the left" rules, I see no reason to try to either apologize or defend something that someone on the right says, even if I don't agree with it.
     
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    LOL I saw that old term used elsewhere in the recent past, Wish I could remember where.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    Yeah I saw someone use it a few days ago, so I figured this was the new word they were told to use.
     
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    "Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused President Trump of treason"
    https://www.californiasun.co/email/...of-treason-photos-of-san-francisco-submerged/

    "Rep. Seth Moulton, a former Marine Corps officer, accused President Trump of "treason" on Wednesday"
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-rep-accuses-trump-of-treason-over-russia-bounty-report

    "New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio on Thursday said President Trump should be removed from office -- and accused him of committing "treason" "
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/capitol-rioting-de-blasio-trump-treason

    and so on...
    https://news.grabien.com/story-11-times-dems-media-accused-trump-administration-treason

    Do you hold these examples to the same standard of expectation as you do MTG?
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wishful thinking is not a merit worthy argument.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're missing the point. I suggest a thorough reread of the comment to which you just replied.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Treason" has a couple of meanings in every day speech. There is the less formal meaning, which is to engage in acts of betrayal of American values, of which this president is arguably guilty, and there is the constitutional de jure treason, which warrants execution.

    Unlike MTG, who argued for the 'treason warranting execution' formal meaning of the term, Pelosi argued for the former, and apparently you are unable to discern the difference. You see, it wasn't the 'treason' term I was harping on with regard to MTG, it was the fact that she said Pelosi deserved execution. Pelosi most certainly did not make that claim against the president, nor has any other Democrat you point to, below, all of whom used the more informal use ot the word.

    Question is moot, See above.
     
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    What an almost slick way to justify your double standards... but you're still just saying its ok for some people to use a word but not ok for others, because you interpret it differently depending on the source... and I see that as a huge steaming pile of bullshit.

    Treason is a legal term that in this country is punishable by the death penalty, and while I'll agree its tossed around too hastily these days, its being done so by all 'sides'.
     
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    1. Posting the definition does prove my point.
    2. There is no shouting in my posts to you. Accusing me of shouting when I have not done that proves my point.
    3. IMO, your reactions to MTG's comments are rather obvious examples of petty partisan election cycle hysterics. Which does not make you a bad person. ;-)
    4. MTG's comments are not beyond the norm for partisan politicians. You are overreacting to them. IOW, just more routine partisan election cycle political posturing.

    The definition is, well, definitive. ;-)

    "hysterical
    hĭ-stĕr′ĭ-kəl
    adjective
    1. Laughing or crying for a prolonged period of time.
    2. Extremely funny.
    3. Of, characterized by, or arising from hysteria. No longer in clinical use.
    4. Extremely funny.
    5. Of, or arising from hysteria.
    6. Having, or prone to having hysterics.
    7. Provoking uncontrollablelaughter.
    8. marked by excessive or uncontrollable emotion
    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
    [​IMG]More at Wordnik"
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The phony show of selective outrage are a hallmark of partisan election cycle hysterics. It may be a good thing for party partisans to have that kind of emotional release. Otherwise all the hate can get beyond their ability to control.


    "“According to a poll from the University of Massachusetts at Lowell, 64% of Democratic voters would rather see ‘a giant meteor strike the Earth, extinguishing all human life’ than President Trump re-elected,” reports The Week. “The poll, conducted Jan. 28–31, also shows about half of Independent voters would say the same extreme thing.”

    The existential mindset breaks down strictly along class lines, with a full 69% of those making under $50,000 a year approving of Armageddon over Trump’s re-election, compared to just 49% of those who make more than $100,000 a year."
    THE DAILY WIRE, POLL: 64% Of New Hampshire Democrats Would Rather ‘A Meteor Strike The Earth And Extinguish All Human Life’ Than See Trump Re-Elected, By Paul Bois, FEBRUARY 7TH, 2020.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/poll...uish-all-human-life-than-see-trump-re-elected
     
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  13. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wrong, I stand by my comment, which is accurate, not to mention you acknowledge my point in your last sentence.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    I'll file this in the wishful thinking file.
     
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    Progress. :)
     
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    AOC literally said that it’s more important to be morally correct than it is to be factually correct.

    On that statement alone she deserves to be derided as a blithering idiot. Furthermore it means nothing she says can be taken factually.
     
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