Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Oh, almost forgot: we've covered the fact that there was cyanide residue on the walls from Zyklon B, something you've admitted. You say it may have been just for delousing or sanitizing dead bodies.

    And now you claim that the room wasn't airtight when they did this? Care to think about that some more?
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As late as the winter of 1947, the British had about 460,000 German POWs doing unpaid Slave Labor in Britain just as the most sadistic and brutal forms of torture ever to sully the pages of history took place in the infamous "London Cage".
    These savage crimes against humanity do not even include the millions murdered under the British Colonial system.

    How credible can a court of law be in a country that commits & condones such atrocities?
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're not paying attention to what I've written.

    I'm not admitting that there is any residue of cyanide gas on the walls of the morgue/fake "gas chamber". To the best of my knowledge no cyanide gas residue has been found on those walls.

    I said: If trace elements of cyanide gas were found on the walls, it was only because pesticides such as Zyklon B was used by the Allies as well as the Germans to delouse rooms, clothes, blankets etc. to prevent the spread of typhus.

    I'll respond to the rest of your comment later.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Wow!

    Not only did you spin what he said, you spun his take away point into a bold faced lie.

    Same **** happens in courts now days when they have no case, and the other side is winning, its called baffle them with bullshit, a common disgraceful argument strategy.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    PLEASE! Dont soil a Holohoax lie with the truth!

    There are several confessions from several lying J-W witnesses/survivors that were never even there, but this one is particularly interesting because it directly follows lock step with their infamous leader, Elie Weasel.

    Narrator: But Mr Rosenblata thats not the truth.

    "I KNOW ITS A LIE BUT
    IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"



     
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  6. yardmeat

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    And you claim they did it in a room that wasn't airtight. Despite the fact that delousing takes a higher concentration than killing a person does. Guess you aren't as concerned about that proximity to other buildings as you pretended to be.

    Also, you didn't say "If" originally. You've simply changed the goalposts because you realize your position is entirely nonsensical. Here's what you originally said:

    "Of course there are trace elements of cyanide on the walls where the Germans fumigated a morgue of typhus victims to keep the disease from spreading and killing inmates . . . "

    Again, you admitted it. That or, as with my links and your own links, you haven't read your own posts.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    When there is no evidence, baffle them with spin and bullshit!
    The material evidence has long proven the positions you support are pure bullshit, why do you persist?
     
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  8. Ronald Hillman

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    Typical response from a denier, obviously internet memes, obscure historians and anything that confirms your bias is to be preferred to a court of law in the oldest democracy in the world!

    Still point out the errors the judge made the transcript and judgement are here!

    https://www.hdot.org/about/
     
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    Not only this but why do many say that the holy bible is a myth; a fairy tale, of sorts?

    Maybe they have knowledge that His Name, The Christ Messiah's Name was not / IS not, (J)esus and that the term (J)ew(s) is a 'fake' word.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    So you are a revisionist then?
    But of course you cherry pick only revisions that support your cause, while dismissing out ot hand material evidence.
    Irving did not have an attorney, while lipstadt had paid out 13 million. :roflol:
    Bribes are expensive now days.

    Lipstadt's architectural expert Professor Robert Van Pelt admitted under cross examination that he had never studied architecture and was not a qualified architect; despite this, the court accepted his "expert" evidence.
     
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    No dear, again your imagination is running away from you, watch out there may be a Zio commie neo atheist Jew hiding under the bed right now out to get you!
     
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    By the way Pelt is a graduate of architectural history and a architectural historian!
     
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    He is now LOL
     
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    [Faurisson] The court perfectly summarized what it called my "logical thread" and my "reasoning" by specifying it, for me,

    "[...] the existence of the gas chambers, such as usually described since 1945, conflict with an absolute impossibility, which suffices by itself to invalidate all the existing testimonies or, at the least, to stamp them with suspicion."

    Determination by the court-Robert Faurisson - Holocaust denier

    Irving may have been a good investigator but a judicial idiot as well, the holocaust would be a no brainer in any 'honest' court.
     
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    Expert in obscure French literature says holocaust never happened, what more proof do we need!
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    the court agreed that the holocaust never happened, you deny all material evidence. internet forum poster says it happened, providing liars and thieves as witnesses
     
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    No dear, providing Judges and court transcripts, whilst you provide convicted deniers who are experts in french poetry!
     
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    But you have never shown a shred of physical evidence any J-Ws were gazzed beyond the bean and beer they drank at auschwitz.

    Did some miraculous historical discovery take place?
     
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    October 9, 1981, was Cox and Mermelstein’s moment. As Cox stood before Judge Johnson, he laid out his case for the Injurious Denial of Established Fact. The IHR had “slapped the plaintiff Mel Mermelstein in the face with this great lie,” he noted. “Where did the babies [of Auschwitz] go, Your Honor?…Where did the children go? They were not subject to labor….they were not there. They were put to death.”

    Judge Johnson accepted the judicial notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at Auschwitz. Then he went even further and declared the Holocaust an indisputable fact.

    “A judge, an American judge, stood up and said ‘Yes, the Holocaust is not subject to dispute,’” Mermelstein recounted via email. “That moment stands out in my mind. Now and forever after, the judicial notice stands.”

    With that notice on the books, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Robert Wenke wouldn’t allow any evidence claiming the Holocaust never happened. The case itself wouldn’t wrap up until July 1985, when a settlement was reached ending Mermelstein’s civil suit against the IHR. The Holocaust deniers agreed to pay Mermelstein the $50,000 prize, an additional $50,000 in damages, and to issue a letter of apology.
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...-then-sued-holocaust-deniers-court-180970123/


    No shouts the denier I want a big building with gas chamber for Jews written on it or i am putting my fingers in my ears and shouting "did not happen"!
     
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    WTF?

    You mean an american court in the land of the free refused to hear any contrary evidence? Seriously?

    you sure that case wasnt in germany?
     
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    Though the Germans made concerted attempts to avoid direct references to the gassings that took place in the camp, sometimes even those in the upper echelons slipped up. On 29 January 1943, for example, SS Captain Bischoff, head of the Auschwitz Central Construction Management, wrote to officials in Berlin regarding Crematorium 2, and in this letter he referred to a Vergasungskeller (gassing cellar).

    In the Auschwitz archives one can inspect the architectural drawings for Crematoria 4 and 5. These call for 30 x 40cm windows, through which Zyklon B was to be thrown. In February 1943 the Auschwitz Construction Office issued a work order for the 'production of 12 gas-tight doors (window shutters) approximately 30/40cm'. In Auschwitz there remain a number of decrepit 30 x 40cm window shutters. The remnants of a gas-tight seal are still visible around their edges. The handle for closing the windows is on the outside, a decidedly impractical arrangement for any room, unless one wanted to ensure that those inside could not open them.

    On 28 February, according to the civilian contractors' daily time-sheets, the gas-tight shutters were installed. A time-sheet dated 2 March 1943, and submitted by the contractor for work on Crematorium 4, mentions a 'concrete floor in gas chamber'. These documents indicate that by March 1943 workers officially designated a room in Crematorium 4 a 'gas chamber'.' The drawings, work order, time-sheets, and remaining windows constitute a simple but stunning example of the confluence of evidence concerning the gassing of prisoners at the camp.

    Deniers also claim that the gas chambers were actually delousing chambers or morgues. But the documentary evidence proves this a bogus claim. In a letter dated 31 March, Bischoff refers to a 'gas [tight] door' for Crematorium 2, which was to be fitted with a rubberised sealing strip and a peephole for inspection. The deniers fail to explain why a door for a delousing chamber or morgue would need a peephole.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/genocide/deniers_01.shtml

    Not a shred of evidence accept the letters, the drawings, the time sheets and the remnants of gas tight seals!
     
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    That is right in the land of the free, the Holocaust is an established FACT as are the gas chambers in Auschwitz, your country, your laws, your judge, lap it up!
     
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    no evidence its use was for J-Ws
    missing lots of parts if it was planned to be used for cyanide, where is the rest of the parts list or is that all made up?
    ah yes, J-W rumors

    Parts list please, the german words they claim means 'gas [tight] door' please, intended use please.

    we already know you believe anything without evidence, I dont
     
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    false, its not an established fact if material evidence is presented and refused to be heard. Thats a stacked deck

    It is established despotism and tyranny.
     
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    You asked for a shred of evidence, you got it, sorry dear, thanks for playing!
     

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