Jihadists now use ANY excuse to kill us.....including....BIKINIS!

What percentage chance would those people have of joining their fellow Jihadis, like Allah wishes of course, would be the central question. Today the figure is not high enough to warrant camps - I don't know what percentage chance would be needed - that's the only reason why Nigel Farage, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson et al proposed camps.

 

The problem is that one culture FORCES women to dress that way.

 

You probably DO want to answer "yes" to my question, but you fear your god might get mad if you do (since it would show that you are more ethical than he is), so you are simply not being as HONEST as you'd be as a Modern Secular Humanist. So maybe you moral fault is not being HONEST, not not being loving. I blame god/Jesus, not you, however.

 

Putting innocent people in concentration camps because of possible thoughtcrimes is never okay.

But I guess I’m ethically superior to you.

 

Nobody said "concentration camps", but rather, arguably, "WWII US Japanese-American style separation camps - separate but equal, ideally".

 

You're not ethically superior to me if you can't, for example, answer this question: "when would you have come down, if you were god, and told humanity that slavery was now wrong".

 

And those were morally and ethnically despicable too. The only difference between a “separation camp” and a “concentration camp” is semantics.

 

So you condemn FDR for that?

 

I’ve answered that question many times and said if I was a god I wouldn’t interfere in free will.

 

FDR has been a corpse for 70 years. What does condemning a corpse do?

Besides, he was hardly the only person involved in interring Japanese-Americans.

 

So then you condemn, fully, God for interfering with free will for issuing the 10 Commandments, and Jesus for giving the Sermon On The Mount, then, correct?

 

It's all what you get used to.

 

I KNEW you couldn't condemn the person who was responsible for the camps, even when asked point-blank, so you're as hypocritical as I was suspecting you were (no offense.)

 

Are we assuming the Christian god/Jesus were real in this scenario?

If yes, then he/they/it was objectively right to violate free will because anything it does is objectively right and I would be objectively wrong to condemn those actions.

If no, then what is the point in condemning a fictional being for actions I don’t even believe occurred?

 

What does condemning 70 years rotted corpses do again?

FDR was hardly the only person responsible for Japanese American internment camps.

 

I urge you to read Matt 5-7 - Sermon on the mount.

He starts out with - Blessed are the "poor in spirit" - for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
He then goes on at length about "works works and more works" - no faith required - no believe in Jesus required.

Then he gives the rock on which his teachings are based Matt 7:12 "The Golden Rule" Do unto others as you would have done to you/ Treat others as you would be treated. Jesus states - that this rule sums up the law and the prophets.

Then in summarizing he talks about the "bad fruit"

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5-7&version=NIV

This completely contradicts the "believe or go to hell" nonsense touted by so many cult leaders.

The above well describes the right wing fundamentalists.

Also see Matt 25 Sheep and Goats parable which echos the above. It is the "believers" that get thrown into hell

 

Condemning immorality is a skill that you have not yet acquired, of course....but I hold out hope for you yet.

 

To be clear: what practical effect beyond ego stroking does condemning a corpse have?