Jim Jefferies Stand Up Comedian On Gun Control

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  1. Small Town Guy

    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL so says Canada...unfortunately you have no say here and guess what, Our laws and courts and FF say yup...you can. :wink:
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please go back and answer each of my post statements or questions one point at time or Jesus H Fing Christ keep your aussie opinions to yourself. You Dodged everyone of em....made your own train of though...SHEESH!
     
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    And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the 2nd amendment will never see reform, because when you say anything that happens to go against their Gun-nut beliefs, the suddenly forget every single point you make, and ask you to make them again... mate I've made all my replies, if you don't believe me go back and look through the thread I bet you a whole Benjamin Franklin (Also a raging American fool) that I've replied to every single one, and you've sidestepped all of mine. And it's nice to see the Anti-Australian and Anti-Canadian Xenophobia creep in, not getting emotional are we?
     
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    Useless opinion, just like the comedian's. For instance, the comparison to slaves was funny, but stupid just the same. It is delivery that counts. I laughed. It was funny, but he displays the usual misconceptions about guns that most of those afraid of guns do.
     
  5. PrimeNumber

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    hahaha you make me laugh Jimbo, you call my stats out but haven't supported any of your own. Your FBI data http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/violent-crime/violent-crime and http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2013/september/latest-crime-stats-released starts to show an increase in 2012 and http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/24/violent-crime-rising-in-united-states/3180309/ it may be decreasing but OUR is decreased steadily yours is starting to wiggle.

    Your so unoriginal you cant even come up with a better nickname for me. We don't call people Jimbo in Canada that's just (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up.

    Then you use the emotion card when you have no way of prooving me wrong, whose the emotional one here Jim-bob.
    Violent crime rates Jimbo the post moved onto a new topic, please try to keep up.

    Any and all data applies, I reached back to 1977 but you had no beef with that, please try to keep your arguments the same across the board Jimmy.

    We are fixing our issues here in Canada Jimbo, yours seem to be getting worse all across the board, in fact there's really nothing a majority of you can even agree on. Your so far up your countries (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) you don't even know what going on with the rest of it. Probably smells really bad in there too. You just shoot each other, rob each other and then happily sit by while corporations take a big long turd on your life. Hell even our mcdonalds workers in Canada probably make more than you Jimbo. The whole world is laughing at you, and your too stubborn to realize it.
     
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    No I sadly cannot, but like trying to teach foreigners how to speak, I can only teach and maybe just maybe someone will learn.
     
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    And of course nobody but an American can have an opinion about America, who has flung their s**t world wide and dragged us into Vietnam... We're just not smart enough.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christ, we don't want it reformed, the anti-gun wackos cannot answer with fact, Jesus H Fing Christ you cannot even respond to a post factually. I am not anti any country, I am an anti-freaking-meddling-uneducated response poster. You really have no clue but here I'll give you the best one in spite of your dodge to answer honest questions.....if all you posts are true, why does the 2A in the US still have strong support...eh?
     
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    Nice dodge but since you choose to quote 1993 stats....you prove you'll do anything to prove a point...at the expense of facts. You are done....nothing more need said.
     
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    I graciously accept your defeat Jimbo, it was great debating the merits of facts that are pre-1994, I'm glad you accept everything post-1994 though how awesome of you.

    Here read this Jim Helping a Child learn to accept defeat graciously.

    Just remember that at any time you could become a statistic I could use in my global quest for logic so be careful Jimmy!

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    I don't think you understand Jim hahaha your country is no where near the top of this list.

    I think what you meant to say was this;
    "CHA sooo dumb and yet sooo much gun violence still. WOW... emotions emotions emotions I have all the emotions"
     
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    "Anti-Gun Wackos" Yeah, all the reduced homicide/suicide and Mass Shooting inhibiting rhetoric is really Wacko, hey? The impending "Corrupted-Government-Takeover" is coming soon, along with the armed thugs and rioters... and of course you'd better watch out for judgement day, Jesus is a-comin' and you want to be armed. What post isn't factual, point one out! Uneducated? Wha...? It's like you're trolling... but extremely well. And I have no idea who the "2A" are, I googled them and got nothing.
     
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    Harvard Says you're wrong Gun Control Advocates. http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/...d-gun-study-no-decrease-in-violence-with-ban/
    This link isn't to the Harvard study, but the link to it is there.

    It has been argued that the 2nd amendment was to protect against tyranny. This website offers a list of the places in the world where gun bans have occurred and tyranny followed in the 20th Century. If you went back in history the list would be much longer.
    http://www.sodahead.com/living/the-...control/question-3448305/?link=ibaf&q=&esrc=s

    It has also been argued in this forum that the framers of our Constitution didn't intend the 2nd amendment to be anything other than a well regulated militia. Since this thread started with a comedian I offer comedians in rebuttal. [video=youtube;P4zE0K22zH8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8[/video]

    In the US we have some problems and I'm not disputing that, but the problem is not gun related, it is people related. Gun deaths are higher in the urban areas of the country and primarily in the lower income areas of the urban. Why, I have no idea. I'm a Caucasian male living in the middle of America and have no business guessing, but I know a problem when I see one. One of the biggest problems I have is that personal responsibility seems to have gone out the window. There is always a reason that caused said person to hurt someone and the reason is rarely the simple fact that the person is bad.
     
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    It lists Nazi Germany. The Nazis actually made it EASIER for Germans to buy guns. They removed restrictions.
     
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    I understand where your coming from but you have to remember that these were countries where civil, social and political upheaval were happening, countries that hadn't developed into anything civilized. If you honestly think that America will be on that list I feel sorry for you that you have no faith in yourself, your countrymen and your leaders to be civilized enough to not have a genocide on your hands. This I can assure you will never happen in Canada. And we don't have any reason to ever think it will, which may be the reason America feels like it always needs a gun pointed at its door. Paranoia is an ugly thing.
     
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    yes, for Germans...however, the Jews had no such recourse.
     
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    I don't think 250k Jews would have been able to do much against a country of 80 million.
     
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    I bolded the part that was the most important thing you stated.
    Think about that...Obie has lied and stolen from the American people, we have a police state, armed with military equipment, kicking in doors, SS-style, we have a criminal bunch in Congress, and we are so polarized over advancing socialism, and our economy is in shambles.............doesn't take much to see we are over the cliff with government/law becoming the next tyrant, that if we surrender anything now, it would be devastating to America.
    You live in Canada and cannot appreciate any of this because it doesn't affect you. I don't see Canada opening its arms, welcoming the flood of illegals that are coming into here. Y'all don't want them there. If you don't want them, you guys had best start getting your borders ready, because they wont stop here.
    It doesn't take much to turn your so-called civilized world into a foot-print society.
    Take a serious lesson from history. All nations fall, eventually. All governments fail, eventually, and Man will find himself defenseless from all of this, if we do things your way.
     
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    so, they just laid down and died....................they sure as hell couldn't do anything else
     
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    so you show how smart you are by insulting people..wow, talk about losing credibility
    ..and I don't think his name is Jimbo or Jim
     
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    The usual claim though is that the holocaust only took place because Germany banned guns. German Jews though only made up a tiny fraction of the victims of the Holocaust. Germany's gun laws had nothing to do with whether or not other countries had armed populations when Germany invaded.
     
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    that's one claim, the other is that Hitler only ok'd Germans to own guns in Germany, not the Jews. Sure made his job easier when it came time to send them to the showers.
    Tell me, a person has a choice, die on your knees or on your feet. IT almost sounds like you are in favor of dying on their knees instead of offering up the slightest bit of resistance. and that's what you wish for the US.
     
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    This is the part that people are forgetting though. The framers of our constitution looked at history and saw that all governments fell at some point in time, and that most had a disarmed population. The second amendment was written in my opinion for 2 reasons. 1. Keep the government honest. 2. Eventually the framer vision will fail and they wanted the civilians to have a fighting chance.

    Do we have a worry now. I think not in my life time, but possibly in my children's and I would much rather suffer the gun problem now than have my children suffer the not having a gun then.

    If you pay attention to this forum then you may pay attention to the problems we are currently experiencing and with the current unrest we might have a civial war again before we are fighting the government.

    For those that poo poo the idea of an armed civilian population standing up to a government that has Cruise missiles and bombers I would point at the Iraq's or current and the founders of our nation as examples where it can happen. In both cases the Iraq's and Colonials were out gunned, but in the end they won.
     

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