"Jimmy Kimmel suggests hospitals shouldn’t treat unvaccinated patients..."

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  1. mswan

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    I’m glad you and Kimmel don’t get to make these decisions. Yours is a fascist form of triage.
     
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    Judge whatever way you want. Your posts convince me you’re not someone who’s opinion I value.
     
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    People just aren’t being informed my friend. It’s not their fault. I’ve been telling people obesity increases likelihood of infection for months and without fail the response is “no it isn’t” or “you are making crackpot claims” etc.

    Unless a person is actively searching and reading these studies they have no way to know this information. I think it’s one of the greatest failings of the pandemic—failing to explain Covid is mostly a preventable lifestyle disease outside of (but also to a large degree here as well) the aged.

    I haven’t come across anyone in or outside the medical community besides you who is aware obesity increases likelihood of infection let alone the underlying physiological reasons like ACE2 expression or reduced naive T cell concentrations.

    Of course most probably don’t care anyway. I started encouraging exercise as a way to decrease likelihood of infection and to prepare the immune system to benefit more from eventual vaccination back in April or May of 2020, can’t remember for sure. Instead, 40% of Americans gained 29 pounds average by some estimates during the pandemic.
     
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    Kick them out. Won’t change the facts I’ve presented. Just be intellectually honest and consistent about all the other demographics who went looking for health problems. Kick them out too.
     
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    History is replete with examples of why we should never value the opinions of authoritarians who do not see intrinsic value in human life.
     
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    Well said. And no, you NEVER make crackpot claims. You've always thoroughly substantiated your claims with studies. Whoever is accusing you of this, doesn't know how good you are at spotting relevant studies and actually reading them. You post facts. You're one of the rare posters here who always stick with facts. Many others post opinions. Your posts have a very high accuracy rate.
     
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    Thank you. Being correct is my goal. :)
     
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    How about all the flip flopping regarding masks?

    How about all the flip flopping regarding vaccine protocols?

    How about most every decision regarding kids and their need for masks, remote learning, and most recently the push to force vaccines on them?
     
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    That is NOT an answer to the question I asked.

    You have to identify something about the decision making that could be considered a rejection of science.

    Pointing to changes in policy does NOT DO THAT AT ALL.

    First of all, there can be reasons for policy that come from sources other than science. Science is only one source that informs decision making. For example, science could indicate a solution that can not be afforded or for which we don't have the materials.

    Second of all, science continues to advance our understanding. So, I HOPE there is change in science. If there weren't, we would know that science is not progressing.

    If next month we find some other solution, our policy could very well change again.

    For example, our policy would undoubtedly change if people just f'ing got vaccinated!!
     
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    You haven't presented any facts that other people who need help in hospitals, are there due to their own bad choices.
    We do know that a massive amount of beds are used by covid patients who aren't faxed, so massive that there isn't room for some other patients. Them are facts.
     
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    Hmmm. Sure did present facts to oppose your completely made up statistics.


    Your original “facts” were complete fabrication. You struck out.
     
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    You didn't strike any note on your own claim.
    So far it's hot air.
     
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    What? You even agreed with me my stats were correct!
     
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    Leftwing Nut Case "Expert" Calls For Denying Life-Saving Hospital Treatment To The Unvaccinated
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    ...says they are “not fit for life on earth” in unhinged rant.

    They always want to kill those they view as failing to submit. Folks like this cannot be trusted to wield authority in a sane manner.
    Eliminatist Narrative, Dog Whistling for violence against the unvaxxed.
    There is no solid evidence that vaccinating those with natural immunity has benefits that exceed vaccine risk.

    "Yet another example of the familiar trend of blue checkmarks on Twitter aggressively displaying their virtue while calling for mass genocide."

    "“So much for “healthcare is a human right,” quipped one"
     

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