Joe Biden Campaign Demands Media Censor Rudy Giuliani

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  1. struth

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    You are skipping a lot. He specifically said the OLC wasn’t the reason why. Thy never considered it
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the adults in the country accepted the results.
     
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    What report are you reading?

    In their report, prosecutors wrote, “The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.”

    In fact, they emphasized, “If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.”

    Crucially, Mueller’s team also disagreed with Barr’s contention that a president cannot obstruct justice. And contrary to what Barr believes, Mueller’s team said a person can be guilty of obstruction even if no underlying crime – like conspiracy – exists.

    Mueller’s report lays out three main reasons why prosecutors didn’t indict Trump or suggest he should be charged:

    • They adhered to the OLC’s 1973 decision that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

    • They believed that if their report suggested Trump could face federal charges without actually bringing them, it would not be fair because there would be no trial, and he wouldn’t have an opportunity to clear himself.

    • Mueller did not consider filing a sealed indictment against Trump out of fear that it would be leaked and significantly impede his ability to govern.
    Notably, however, prosecutors pointed out that while the OLC’s guidance says a sitting president cannot be indicted, it “recognizes that a criminal investigation during the President’s term is permissible.”

    “The OLC opinion also recognizes that a President does not have immunity after he leaves office,” they continued. “Given those considerations, the facts known to us, and the strong public interest in safeguarding the integrity of the criminal justice system, we conducted a thorough factual investigation in order to preserve the evidence when memories were fresh and documentary materials were available.”

    That wording leaves open the possibility that Trump could be charged with obstruction of justice once he leaves office.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/othe...tradicts-what-barr-told-the-public/ar-BBW73SJ
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So two years, $35 million, 500 witness and a fleet of FBI agents and they come up with a 'possibility'? Leftist diehards are being gamed. If these guys had something don't you think they would have gone for i?
     
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    But you can't, huh?
     
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    LOL, I seriously doubt Trump supporters actually pay attention to anything. What good would it do you, for me to repeat the link again. Is that Trump suporters version of winning :)
     
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    Damn Fred did you not read where he said because of DOJ policy they could not bring charges against a sitting president. So what the hell were they gonna go for?
     
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    Because it's a 'policy' and not a law. There are now laws which restrict charges being brought against a sitting President, and the suggestion is based on the idea that the Republic might suffer as a consequence. They can bring charges.
     
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    Jesus if the guy could have brought charges he would have, hell Barr even tried to change his thoughts do you really think he would have brought charges against Trump? Hell no, you know damn well he wouldn't. Do you read the letter he sent out a year before he even got the position.
     
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    It does not help that many of them are ignorant of history and filled with propaganda in the leftwing schools
     
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    That's right, if they had any evidence.
    That jumble makes it difficult to respond. Please use some evidence to support your claims.

    In a previous post I said "There are now laws which restrict charges being brought against a sitting President". That should have read "No laws".,
     
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    That's why they seldom include any evidence to support their opinions.
     
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    He had evidence, read the report and stop listening to flush limpbaugh.
    Read Barr's letter on impeachment. He has been a Trump flunky since he hit the scene.
     
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    Why do leftists always ask others to investigate the claims they make? You should have this information available when you post, perhaps including a link.
     
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    Why do I need to do that, you righties claim that you are up on everything already.
     
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    Yes, righties are up on everything but lefties are full of crap. That's why they should provide some credible verification when they post.
     
  19. superbadbrutha

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    I guess you will have to talk to a lefty, but Trump throws out horseshit everyday and you Trumpers take it and run with it.
     
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    No he wasn't, where is the indictment? The report said 'possible', Lefties like to leave that out. But at the hearing Mueller said he was not obstructed in any way, so if he wasn't obstructed, there can be no obstruction of justice.
     
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    Come on you know why he wasn't indicted. The thought of your God being sent out the door must be Scary as hell for Trumpers.
     
  22. Fred C Dobbs

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    Why don't the Democrats follow the same path the Republicans used when Bill Clinton was impeached? Any idea?
     
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    Isn't that what they are doing.
     
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    No.
     
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    So Republicans were doing it for the right reasons, but Democrats aren't. Smfh.
     

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