Joe Biden Urges Coal Miners to ‘Learn’ to Code: Anybody ‘Can Learn How to Program, for God’s Sake!’

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  1. AKS

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    Oh it's true now, eh? Then you can certainly back up your claim with hard data.
    I've posted a link to open developer jobs on Linked In, there's obviously scores more not listed there. Doesn't jive with your bullshit.
     
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    do a search for "us jobs outsourced to India" , you will see it's true, course I think you already know it's true

    some from last year

    "Wells Fargo CEO Grilled for Outsourcing American Jobs to India"

    https://www.ustechworkers.com/wells-fargo-ceo-grilled-for-outsourcing-american-jobs-to-india/

    "U.S. Workers Outsourced as Trump Plans Giveaway to Foreign Workers"
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...d-as-trump-plans-giveaway-to-foreign-workers/

    "Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers"

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ax-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers

    "How Indian IT Workers Discriminate Against Non-Indian Workers"


    https://www.brightworkresearch.com/...kers-discriminate-against-non-indian-workers/
     
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    Biden is a simpleton.

    He’s like Kevin in “The Office”.
     
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    I've always said he's like Leslie Neilson's character from Airplane.
     
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    We are talking about the software industry, right? In my experience, out sourcing software projects hasn't worked out very well and bring a host of pita problems.
    I wonder if Boeing will keep it up. I bet not.
    Fact is that there are more open developer jobs than people to fill them. That's NOT symptomatic of an industry being outsourced.
     
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    I have been learning to code for a while now. Thankfully my job encourages professional development. That said, with all the courses I have completed and small coding projects I have done, I am still not a programmer. So, anyone who says something like what Biden said must be totally ignorant about how programming works.
     
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    The programmers I work with write tools to automate data management. The simple scripts they write are 2,000 lines of code sometimes.

    sarcasm = str('Yeah....its so easy anyone can do it. Just take the course and you are a programmer!')
    print sarcasm
     
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    NG burns far cleaner than any coal. No left overs, like toxic ashes, not storage of a toxic material, coal is toxic, full of heavy metals.
    No filters for heavy metals and sulfur and so on.
    You do not mine it, you drill a hole, maybe fracking.
    Transportation is cheaper, far cheaper.

    Its economics
     
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    Biden meant, to look for a different job in the future, because Cole mining will be obsolete in the future.
    Other forms of energy and their lower cost will make it so.
     
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    all of the jobs going to India, IT specially, but it's many areas, like customer service jobs, ect....

    yes, most jobs have gone overseas, the ones that remain are filled fast, why is that, cause so many IT folks out of work due to jobs going overseas

    as more and more companies move their data\servers to the cloud, India will take more and more jobs, moving stuff to the cloud is step one

    America could stop this by saying no servers in the USA can be accessed by foreign countries, but they won't, mega corporations buy the laws, and this is what they want
     
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    I think at entry level they could. There is always a need for IT. Maybe the senior coal minors would have more of a problem adapting.
     
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    I live in the 4 corners. Black coal open mining is a big deal, even tunnel mining. Kirtland NM is just around the corner, Black Mesa, the same.
    Nobody in this area wants any coal power plants anymore and the constant mining dirt, the dust.
    Kirtland will now switch to NG, 2 blocks, one is not anymore needed, gas is more efficient. Lake Powell, dirty as it goes will shut down, including its mine Black Mesa.
    No mining around Kirtland and Farmington any more. All its left the gigantic holes in the ground, from the open pits mining.
    Toxic. Those closed mines in the 4 corners area might break Peabody's back. The cost of reclaiming will go into the billions.
    Those mines will probably become a burden for the taxpayer, Super Fund babies. Like all the other mines, from Uranium to Tungsten to Silver and lets not forget the abandoned oil wells.
    The closing of the mines causes huge economical stress on the area, especially the Navajo Reservation and the Hopi.
    Good thing we do not get yellow or black snow any more, south wind snow storms. The haze in the valley will be gone, no yellow stinking haze anymore and water, they will not pump gazillion gallons of water out of the aquifers for their mining, a never mentioned by product of open pit mining, dust reduction. The polluted water will than not get back into the aquifers.
    Win, win situation. But the Navajos and Hopis sure have a problem
     
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    Thoughtless on so damn many levels.
     
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    Interesting. Can you explain why the Military retires after 20 years with retirement benefits paid at that point?
     
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    Nice anecdotal opinion piece. Try examining average IQ by profession, then factor in one's desire to learn something in the first place. But by all means, feel free to continue defending Slow Joe's asinine statement. It's your time and energy to waste.
     
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    I am feeling free to mock your opinion.
    https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/programming-myth/

    You go source me otherwise, buddy.
     
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    And what do you got?.... An opinion! lol
     
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    Just google something like "average iq by occupation". See the disparity. Factor in one's interest to learn something. Then... I dunno, act like 3+1=20 and continue defending Joe's incredibly idiotic statement.
     
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    :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:


    "The simple answer is: no, coding is not hard to learn. Why? Because if you take the time and have a little patience, you can really learn just about anything–coding is no exception. "

    By this logic we should all be brain surgeons, but aside from that this guys seems to have NO idea wtf he's talking about.
    Javascipt is simple? C# is extremely complex while Java is easy? Ridiculous!
     
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    If you take computer OCCs... it's starts from just above 90.
    That's aint amazing.
     
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    By no logic is that we can all be brain surgeons when coding is apparently not that hard.
     
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    Try thinking it through.
     

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