Joe Biden wants to ban all semi auto firearms

I'll let you worry about it, but I won't worry since it is designed to fail, much like the 60+ bills to repeal ACA. Political posturing for those who are calling for gun control.

 

No problem. Just repeat the experiment and see if mass shooting deaths fall again. That would be the appropriate thing to do from a scientific standpoint.

 

One conveniently cherry-picked example doesn't destroy any argument.

 

Just treat LCMs like bump stocks.

 

Government is run on civics, not science. Let's see what results we get if we require all voters and candidates to pass a civics and econ test.

 

You mean make possession of even one a felony?

 

That one does, because it proves, proves, that limiting magazines to 10 rounds won't make a difference.

 

You mean violate the Constitution?

 

I actually will agree with you here. I believe this particular piece of legislation was (originally) a political statement rather than an intent to pass.

The reason I emphasize (originally) because I don’t believe it’s that way as it sits. A democrat came out today and said they should change it in order to try and get the votes. The problem with this is that the bill as it is shows the ultimate goals. Just as the last gun control bill didn’t prevent anything nor will this one. It’s just another stepping block to a total ban

 

It’s not cherry picked. It’s a fact

 

Fact remains:
You claim cause and effect, and you are fully aware that you are unable to prove your claim.

 

Yeah?
How many of the 600+ mass shooters this year were stopped by people rushing him during a reload?
A conveniently cherry-picked example does not prove your argument.

 

Your statement does nothing to change the fact that unless you make illegal and then confiscate the millions upon millions of magazines in the US, banning new ones will have zero effect.
Zero effect.

 

the majority of bump stocks were not turned in; Democrats want to turn those people into felons when the Democrats cannot even deal with real criminals who actually do harmful things

 

Believe me - I know

They hate the right to keep and bear arms - they have boxcars to fill and we armed yahoos are in their way.

 

Doesn't matter what Biden WANTS. What matters is what can actually HAPPEN. Biden will never get to ban handguns let alone "assault" rifles. That's a good thing.

 

I heard that back when Josh Sugarmann was trying to convince the low wattage types that an AR 15 was just like this weapon

 

Biden has a month to get it done before Repubs take control of the House. Never mind the fact that he doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate. Like I said...Will. Not. Happen.

 

will you be personally liable if a homeowner dies because he runs out of ammo during a home invasion? will you make up the difference in prices that competitive shooters face when they cannot buy new normal capacity magazines for their competition guns. If you are not willing to do both then it's stupid for anyone to agree to your suggestion since crime control is not the motivation anyway

 

10 bucks its a ruger mini 14 and they know better than to call that an assault weapon because ruger pays a lot of politicos and journalists a hell of a lot of money to keep it that way

 

it already passed the house. all by five democrats voted for it-two RINOS did too-

 

What does that have to do with the Senate???????????????????

 

I bought 5 MI carbines from the government. First from the Department of Civilian Marksmanship and then the "private corporation" that succeeded that department-the CMP. those were all real weapons of war and function just like the AR 15 and with soft tip ammo (easily available since MI s are used in the south for deer hunting commonly) at normal "mass shooting" ranges) are just as deadly, and more concealable than AR 15s. Yet almost none have been used in mass shootings. But if the anti gun zealots get an AR 15 banned, you can guarantee the MI carbines-sold to us by the government-would also be banned

 

[QUOTE="ECA, post: 1073875827, member: 77614"]Biden has a month to get it done before Repubs take control of the House. Never mind the fact that he doesn't have 60 votes in the Senate. Like I said...Will. Not. Happen.[/QUOTE]

There is your answer

 

Emphasis mine.

You don't understand why the manufacturer of an expensive tool with many competing examples might add consmetic or barely functional bells and whistles to pad out the advertising, stat sheet, and general aesthetic of the thing someone is going to spend so much money and time on?
Are you also confused as to why big name computer manufacturers put RGB on everything now? Or offer open glass cases for the tower? Or offer little screens you can implant in same with a custom gif (often an anime character because the ****ing weebs like that ****) that serves only to slow down the performance of your machine and make it drain more power?
All for drip?

Do you wonder why some tool manufacturers put speakers, or different types of grips, or casings, or colors, on something?

Humans like pretty colors. Humans like shiny things. Humans like a tool to look as if it will function well, and they can sometimes have strange ideas as to what that means.
You don't argue with them, you serve the need or desire and get paid.
People like flash hiders. Why? Makes the gun more pleasing to use, which makes it more likely you'll practice. People like adjustable stocks? Why? Because I may lose weight, or gain it, or decide I want a different length of pull, or need to fit it in the range bag, etc. I might want to shoot it with more than one other person who is not my exact size.
Why a bayonet lug? Because bayonets have a useful potential function (if you're not talking an AR really. Unless you're working a fixed stock on it.... but why would you do that? ) and also serve that same aesthetic desire to look as if it should function as contemplated.