Jordan's Accusers Represented by DNC/FusionGPS Law Firm

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  1. Grokmaster

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    This puts the hyper-partisan law firm (one reader who has dealt with Perkins, Coie in every election cycle for years describes it as “the legal goon squad of the Democrats”) in charge of investigating Jim Jordan on behalf of Ohio State. There should be no expectation that the investigation will be fair as it relates to Rep. Jordan, an arch-enemy of partisan Democrats.

    How did Perkins, Coie come to be tapped for the investigation? Did Ohio State not know of the firm’s close relationship with the Democrats? Or did those in charge of selecting counsel want a hyper-partisan firm to investigate Jordan?


    From the OTHER LINK:

    Jordan said the timing of the allegations is suspect, since they come immediate after a contentious hearing with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and also during the ongoing discussion that the congressman may run for speaker of the House.

    He said the law firm representing some of the accusers, Perkins Coie, is the same firm that was involved with the Trump-Russia dossier
     
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    It is a good move if Perkins Cole finds Ohio State innocent. You can't deny that.

    But the update blows your thread title away. I have questions, and Jim Jordan is a minnow that no one should really defend. I am cautious over Congressmen who complain the loudest on any side.
     
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    What revalation would that be?

    First of all, there is no evidence that Fusion GPS or the DNC are involved, other than the made up assertions of a known to be untrustworty far right wing trash blog.
     
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    The sky is definitely falling. start sleeping under your bed as added protection.
     
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    Yes, It's called opposition research. And there isn't a candidate for public office anywhere worth their salt who doesn't do it, in one way shape or form. They'd be fools not to.
     
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    Opposition research that found its way to a court room, and is still without any credibility. The entire saga shows the political class should look to another source besides Fusion GPS for opposition research in the future lol.
     
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    I doubt that this is the first time that opposition research found its way into a court room. And not a single piece of said opposition research has been refuted. Indeed, it has been vouched for by several key people.

    And Fusion GPS is not, and never was the only opposition reseach firm out there. Not by a long shot.
     
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    Jordan should just resign now before the coverup gets any worse.
     
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    So vouched for, you can't show us who vouched for it.
     
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    You don't know what the "facts" are yet. The word of two unsavory men you take seriously?
     
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    Too bad all that union money is drying up huh?
     
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    Here.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-...and-more-of-steele-dossier-proving-to-be-true

    If you actually kept up with the actual facts, instead if making up ever more elaborate rationalizations for promoting the largely dubious and often false counter public relations campaigns regarding the investigation itself.

    Contrary to your false insinuation, not one word of the Steele "dossier" has been refuted, no matter how many cute little names Trump calls it.
     
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    What they have in common is the workings of the DNC politics of personal destruction in action. You can set your watch by it any time a politician is running for office or is being considered for an appointment and that person is considered a danger to their agenda.
     
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    The House GOPers wanting the Speakership have more shoes to drop, Jimmy J is a short timer.
     
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    "I can't put a percentage on it." That's a very convenient excuse Mr. Clapper. Very convenient indeed. You see, when liars lie, we never take their words at face value. It took only the second paragraph for his words to be dismissive. So just because a liar claims it's been verified, but can't give you examples or a percentage, that's not a cause for celebration. That should be a cause for worry.

    At least for you that is. For me? I'm laughing.
     
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    Except some of it has been proven to be accurate. The author is far more credible than you for instance, given he is a highly successful experienced intell agent with specific expertise in Russian intell ops and criminal gangs.

    As for alternative sources of oppo intell, I agree that all that trumpian smearing and unsubstantiated accusations in a "fruit of the poison tree" strategy has irreparably damaged Fusion's "brand" going forward.
     
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    So, you don't take Trump's words at face value either?
    Good for you, intellectual and ideological growth can be very rewarding. I wish you luck on your continuing journey.
     
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    For some reason I think the interviews they did conduct involved people who attacked and denigrated the women Clinton attacked.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes the reason is apparent. The statement is bullshit.
     
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    To be honest, I don't take anyone's words at face value. Left or right. Especially as it pertains to this saga. Too much fog to put any reasonable amount of trust in anything. I await the Senate Intel's full report. I'd love to see it.

    If there's only one reason at this juncture that I'd put more weight on Trump than Clapper, is that Trump is POTUS. Given the nobility and dignity I hold for the office of Presidency, I'm not going to accuse the President without proof(the same standards hold for anyone in our court system as Trey Gowdy eloquently stated but for a POTUS, all the moreso.)

    It's time for the accusers to put up or shut up. I'd like to see proof from the DOJ that the DOJ didn't become the 'Department of Rumors'. As I do believe to be the case. And becoming the 'Department of Rumors' is anathema to the justice system IMO.
     
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    Nobility and dignity of the Office? Seems trump misplaced them when he moved in.
     
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    No one will mistake Trump for charisma or a personality of cult. He is neither. He's a man with an overly simplistic message that most people ignored/ignore: Protect the US, period. It is not the case that should America fall, we'll be able to move neatly to Canada. As the Left witnessed, Canada has some laws that we find restrictive. The same is true for any other country around the world.

    An American can only truly be an American in the US. So it is imperative for all of us to be nativist. An African-American is no less a nativist than a Caucasian or an Asian or Hispanic-American. We all have to own our country.
     
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    Huh? So despite the dignity and nobility of the OFFICE, the man is excused for his glaring lack of both because his words and messages are ignored by most people?

    That is a mental contortion of Olympian achievement.

    An american is truly American where ever the hell on the planet they may be. What kind of wimp thinks they have to be within their borders to truly be a citizen?

    Funny how you think nativism is the way to go. I guess the last 70 years of AMERICAN globalism have really trashed american greatness.

    Then again, I guess as a nativist, one could view it as "creating little patches of america" around the world.
     
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    It's not a mental contortion. Someone has to lead, even if that person by extension has no leadership qualities. It's nothing new. In hindsight as we look at the mistakes of the Obama and Bill Clinton presidencies, neither one should've been president. Ford, Nixon, Reagan also made crucial mistakes. The last good President we had was Dwight.D. Eisenhower.

    It's a simplistic statement that Trump is a blowhard, and at this time, we need a blowhard. Since we're all in a half-wake comatose surrounding our country and what we want our political leadrs to be.

    And this is only true if he's born an American, I'd like to hope it's stating the obvious that no one who isn't born in America, is obviously not an American by birth(though he can be through legal immigration proceedings.)

    And here's a better way to state it: While we may be Americans dancing abroad, our American way of life doesn't exist. Just ask Amanda Knox how that worked out. You can't for example have Americanism in a wonderful ally such as Japan. Though they've incorporated a good deal of westernization including some comforts, it is by and large their native country and we have to adjust.

    There is only one place we can live our lives according to our customs, our traditions and our way of living: Here, right here in the glorious US OF A. Not Canada, not Mexico, not New Zealand. Nowhere else but here. We can also ask the Jewish this question, whose diaspora led to being under dictators and concentration camps.

    For America, by America, with Americans. Sincerely: Someone who gives a damn about our country.
     

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