Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump

Your cite is from before the Court acted in December and before they heard oral arguments in April of this year

 

I agree... where does a judge get off stating that prosecutors "don't care" about the case in question...

 

The Judge presiding over the Manafort case, the judge officially reviewing the Flynn case, as well as the jury that awarded DAMAGES in Mueller's anthrax investigation debacle, all seem to disagree...

 

By the authority of BEING THE JUDGE, and commenting on the FACTS OF THE CASE.
He is THE JUDGE; his OPINION MATTERS...Big Time. It's called "JUDGEMENT".

Der....

 

They set aside the lower rulings until they decide, in affect allowing it, for the time being. So, you are right as far as a final ruling...

 

The judge knows what's in Muellers head how? Did Mueller say to someone his intention is to hurt Trump or are you just whistling dixie out your ass?

All of a sudden you give weight to a judges opinion? So how about Roberts on the second amendment?

 

Then those code would have been viewed or heard by the NSA or other intel. And that would be evidence of something going on. You think intel are idiots? They are professionals. Hard to piss on their legs while claiming it is just a soft warm rain.

If not for the use of modern communication, this would require more than a single personal meeting. After all your side is claiming a conspiracy. And it would require that non of the trump campaign took their cell phones with them, and that they used cars that could not be tracked by on board GPS. And this would have been quite the well planned out conspiracy by the trump people. I don't think you understand modern technology, or you do, and you are pretending you don't.

Of course it could have been pulled off, by face to face meetings, but it would require someone with great intel experience on the trump side to do it. Without leaving behind a trail of evidence. And who exactly would that be? Flynn?

And yet to go to such lengths to beat hillary, when no one thought she would be beat, without russia literally hacking voting machines, just appears to be tin foil hat thinking.

 

The PRESIDING JUDGE, expressed his JUDGEMENT, based on what he has seen

Choke on it.

 

It's great to see an adult show up to the party. Reminds me of when James Baker flew into Florida to straighten out the election fiasco for 'W'........

 

Sorry, I though you were referring to Manafort. There is no evidence that Mueller has lied about anything.

Indeed, Mueller hasn't said much of anything for the past year. His silence looms over the Trump presidency.

 

And, having advertised a strong political bias, and commented in court in issues not germaine to the case at all, I see this trial falling apart or the judge being asked to recuse.

 

""None of that information has to do with information related to Russian government coordination and the campaign of Donald Trump."

Fruit of the poisonous tree is a legal metaphor in the United States used to describe evidence that is obtained illegally.[1] The logic of the terminology is that if the source (the "tree") of the evidence or evidence itself is tainted, then anything gained (the "fruit") from it is tainted as well.

Were it not for Mueller's fishing expedition looking for collusion with Russia they would never have found anything about Manafort. What Manafort did has nothing to do with Trump or any alleged collusion to "rig" the campaign. It's why search warrants are for specific items, anything else they find is inadmissible in court. It's the reason they never went after Huma. The cops found the classified information on Weiner's laptop while looking for sexting I believe.

 

Straighten out? You mean, stop the recount before it became evident that Bush didn't win?

That's why he went. That's why Roger Stone was dispatched with the "Brooks Brothers riot" in a chartered plane from Washington DC.

 

Indeed he does, we all do but he has decades of experience on the bench talking to prosecutors every day and he has had the privilege of discussing the cases with Mueller and his henchmen while they couldn't lie to the court.

His conclusion - IT'S A WITCH HUNT. Lol who knew. I wonder how the republicans in Congress bent on "protecting" Mueller will now be able to ignore the fact that a federal judge sees it as a witch hunt and Mueller's claims of unfettered power.

 

He just lets his subordinates leak on a daily basis, that's all.

"No evidence Mueller has lied about anything"?



This Judge seems to think that there might be , but not nearly so much as the one reviewing the Flynn outrage for prosecutorial misconduct,or the one who awarded $millions in damages for Mueller's relentless attempted prosecution of the WRONG PERSON in the anthrax investigation debacle, that was entirely his doing....

 

Mueller's mandate is broad, and I have quoted it here before.

Your claims are not supported by the facts, or by the appointment memo.

"Fruit of the poisonous tree" has all the talk radio bobble heads nodding now. But it isn't even relevant. But it seems to be entertaining, and it continues the false meme that the noise machine has been pushing for a year and a half now (they keep dressing it up with new gimmicks, but it's the same old sauce).

 

So CNN isn't fake news?

 

The judge in the case seems to disagree with you. I'll take his opinion over yours.

 

That is a dead giveaway.

But as it turned out, McCabe knew exactly where the leak had come from. He personally authorized it, Horowitz’s investigators found, to counter charges that he favored Clinton. (His wife received $467,500 from the PAC of a Clinton ally, then Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe, in a failed 2015 bid for state office.)"
TIME MAGAZINE, The FBI Is in Crisis. It's Worse Than You Think, By ERIC LICHTBLAU, By ERIC LICHTBLAU 6:13 AM EDT, 5/14/18.
http://time.com/5264153/the-fbi-is-in-crisis-and-america-is-paying-the-price/

 

But, while I think this judge sounds a little off the rails on some of his points, this one does make one think... any thoughts on this one, Tom?

SNIP
At one point, Ellis posed a hypothetical question, speaking as if he were the prosecutor, about why Mueller's office referred a criminal investigation about Trump's personal attorney Michael Cohen to New York authorities and kept the Manafort case in Virginia.
ENDSNIP

Is it because the Manafort case is at least somewhat connected to Russia while Cohen isn't?

SNIP
Manafort, 69, is accused in both Alexandria and D.C. federal court of crimes related to his work for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine.
ENDSNIP

 

Mueller's Mandate IS NOT UNLIMITED, and the presiding judge, apparently, intends to bring that point home.

""None of that information has to do with information related to Russian government coordination and the campaign of Donald Trump."

That speaks VOLUMES. And it is HE, not the prosecution, who will be making any determinations, just like the FEDERAL JUDGE currently reviewing the Flynn case and plea, as well.

He might well throw out the entire case against Manafort, as "fruit of the poison tree"....

 

If Mueller persists and fails to prove that Trump is an agent of Russia he may have to justify his investigation before a grand jury.

"Mueller may play an outsize role in how his old agency gets through the current crisis. If the special counsel finds that Russia did collude with members of the Trump campaign–the central question in his investigation–and any perpetrators are charged and found guilty in court, it would rebut Trump’s charges of a “witch hunt.” If Mueller finds no evidence of collusion, or declines to make it public, it would open the door for Trump and his campaign to paint the FBI as a band of partisan hacks with a reputation, as he has tweeted, “in tatters.”"

TIME MAGAZINE, The FBI Is in Crisis. It's Worse Than You Think, By ERIC LICHTBLAU, By ERIC LICHTBLAU 6:13 AM EDT, 5/14/18.
http://time.com/5264153/the-fbi-is-in-crisis-and-america-is-paying-the-price/

And I predict you will be among those who will want to see him jailed.

 

I often wonder if anyone has a clue for whatever you're talking about.

 

Rarely this strongly

Federal judge accuses Mueller's team of 'lying,' trying to target Trump: 'C'mon man!'
A federal judge on Friday harshly rebuked Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team during a hearing for ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort – suggesting they lied about the scope of the investigation, are seeking “unfettered power” and are more interested in bringing down the president.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort,” U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III told Mueller’s team. “You really care about what information Mr. Manafort can give you to lead you to Mr. Trump and an impeachment, or whatever."

Further, Ellis demanded to see the unredacted “scope memo,” a document outlining the scope of the special counsel’s Russia probe that congressional Republicans have also sought...........
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...am-lying-trying-to-target-trump-cmon-man.html



And let's not forget a federal judge has already called them on the Flynn persecution and the justification for it and possible prosecutorial misconduct.

Judicial order in Flynn case prompts new round of scrutiny

The federal judge overseeing the criminal case against former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn has ordered special counsel Robert Mueller’s team to turn over any “exculpatory evidence” to his defense team.

The development generated immediate attention in conservative circles, with some seizing on the order as a potential indication that Flynn’s guilty plea had been called into question.

Judge Emmet G. Sullivan filed the order on Friday, directing federal prosecutors to produce to Flynn’s legal team “any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment” in a timely manner.



Sullivan’s order invoked the “Brady Rule,” which requires prosecutors to disclose exculpatory evidence in their possession to the defense — that is, evidence that could prove favorable to the defendant in negating his guilt, reducing his potential sentence or bolstering the credibility of a witness.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...r-in-flynn-case-prompts-new-round-of-scrutiny

And what 6 criminal referrals of DOJ/FBI officials

 

Maybe the FBI should raid his office and take all the files.