Justice Department agrees to brief Dems as Trump touts "spygate"

Firing Comey cannot be a crime. One of the Presidents plenary powers.

 

1.No
2. There is no evidence the President broke any laws.

 

What did Comey say that untruthful about the dossier?

Comey didn't withhold information on the dossier from Trump and the media didn't get the information before Trump did. Comey briefed Trump on the dossier on January 6, 2017. I'm sure the conversation was awkward because of the subject matter, but Trump being defensive is on him, not Comey. Buzzfeed.com published the dossier on January 10, 2017.

 

I've already addressed plenary powers with you. Did you forget or is this just a repetitive response to key words?

No one in the US has unlimited powers, including the President. Trump also thought his plenary power to control immigration would allow him to ban Muslims traveling into the country, and courts ruled he does not have that power. He can ban people from certain countries, but he cannot ban by religion. Neither can he fire someone with corrupt intent, even if he has the power to hire and fire.

 

Comey had earlier been conducting a 'criminal investigation' but decided the suspect was innocent despite not being questioned and gave all her cohorts immunity. This guy couldn't investigate his own lunch. What 'criminal investigation' was Comey conducting regarding Trump?

You can see it now. Just Google Andrew McCabe.

 

There is evidence Trump broke laws. What we do not yet have is charges or a completed investigation.

 

In fact he does have that power. The decision you're referring to was in a lower court,.

 

No wonder you have trouble understanding what's happening- you don't see there are two different investigations going on. Comey had been conducting a counterintelligence investigation on what Russia was doing in the election. Mueller continued that investigation and added a criminal investigation once Comey was fired.

It's funny to me when people pretend they know how to investigate better than professional investigators.

 

He has the power to control immigration by country, but not by religion.

 

No, you don't understand. Comey only told Donald Trump about the golden showers allegation in the dossier. He did not inform him of the totality of the dossier himself. IE: Michael Cohen to Prague claims, Page-Gazprom claims, etc. None of these were SHARED to the President of the United States.

Andrew McCarthy wrote an article on that, theorizing the truth several months before the Memos came out. Comey committed an act of Insubordination.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...about_part_of_the_dossier_not_everything.html

Trump only learned the full brevity when we did: On January 10th. He should've FIRED James Comey then. Insubordination is not tolerable, and should not be excused.

 

He was controlling by country.

 

What crime was committed that would require the appointment of a special counsel?

 

Your own link tells you why Comey only shared the salacious part, and it was because he knew it was going to become public. They didn't have verification of the salacious part, but thought Trump should know what was going to come out. The FBI had confirmation of other parts of the dossier from other sources, as referenced by Papadopolous. They were in the midst of a counterintelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation into Trump, at that time.

The FBI isn't a gossip club. They don't tell all they know, especially when there is an ongoing investigation. They only tell what is absolutely necessary, in order to get more information.

 

He is the President of the UNITED States. There's no excuse for withholding information from the Chief Executive Officer. Especially as you said, it was a counterintelligence investigation, not a criminal one. (And of note, what we know of the Papadopolous meeting as revealed by Downer, that information from Papadoulous(Misfud) was misleading, and the FBI should've sought clarity at the very least.)

Imagine if information was withheld from Barack Obama, would you justify that? The clear act of Insubordination was a fireable offense. It should've been done right there on January 10th. The collaboration between the intelligence people(Brennan) and CNN is outright grotesque.

 

Former New York mayor Rudy W. Giuliani said President Trump wanted a “Muslim ban” and requested he assemble a commission to show him “the right way to do it legally.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...sion-to-do-it-legally/?utm_term=.b0d9f7816967
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Of course, that is beside the point on plenary power. He didn't have the power to ban Muslims and he doesn't have the power to fire someone with a corrupt intent.

 

Oh yes he does, Section 2. Our President, nor our country has to tolerate corruption within federal agencies, the entire system of government would collapse. You know, we'd become Russia then. If Trump really wanted to become Russia-lite, these crony hacks as we've come to know them would have remained in government.

 

No. I don't think there are that many with spines..

If I was to put together a list of potential patriots, it would look something like this:

R. Paul
L. Graham
J. McCain
S. Collins
L. Murkowski
M. Rubio

Long shot - J. Kennedy

It ain't enough (today), but those folks would retain some integrity (should impeachment go to the senate)

 

We're not putting this country in a Constitutional Crisis just to satiate the disappointment with the 2016 Elections. Run some good candidates in 2020, Trump's still a polarizing figure, just do everything anti-HRC and you've got a good shot.

Should've nominated Jim Webb(D-VA). He had cross-section appeal and common sense policies.

 

You understand the Trump campaign was under investigation for coordination, cooperation, and collusion with Russia, yes? Sessions was recused for a conflict of interest, since he worked in the campaign. Comey, who had been leading the investigation, was fired by the guy at the head of the campaign being investigated. Sessions wasn't going to be allowed to oversee the investigation. With Comey gone, there was no leader of the investigation, and the evidence already acquired required the FBI to continue, not dismiss, the investigation. Rosenstein appointed Mueller to fill the gap left in the investigation when Comey was fired.

 

I suggest you review the Constitution. No one in the US government has unchecked plenary power, including the President, especially for a corrupt reason. We have three co-equal branches and they each can check the power of the other two. The courts ruled on Trump's inability to ban Muslims twice, and found he did not have the right to ban Muslims. He can ban travel and immigrants from other countries, but he cannot ban people by religion or race for that matter.

Your rights are not absolute either, in case you didn't know.

 

So, another Trumpflake conspiracy theory whimpers and dies. This failure seems to have hit the Trump cultists harder than their failures usually do, being how they were pinning all of their hopes on it.

Has the new conspiracy theory to replace it been officially issued yet? Better check, Trump backers. You wouldn't want to be the last one to spout the latest conspiracy theory. That would be so embarrassing, and it would lose you major brownie points with the cult.

 

… and if the House votes to impeach based on a crime being committed, and the Senate doesn't remove… Constitutional Crisis, where the President is above the law. That flies in the face of everything this country is about.

Of course, if the evidence is overwhelming, maybe more will put country over party, but like you, I'm not confident they will.

 

He's also under investigation for committing crimes, including colluding and conspiring to defraud the United States of America. If you had your way, the FBI would give him all the evidence and walk away doing nothing. The president isn't king or dictator. He's another American elevated to a temporary leadership position by election.

Imagine Obama using information, from Vietnam elicited during torture, to beat McCain. Then imagine the FBI investigating where the information originated, and finding Obama conspired with Vietnam to get more American aid in response to giving Obama torture tapes. Should the FBI give Obama all the evidence they have that he did illegal things to get the information, drop further investigation, and allow Obama to continue in office?

 

So, the FBI can act without regard for governmental institutions, as long as a member of the institution is 'under an investigation'? I really don't think we want America to go in that direction.

 

Let's simplify: What's GOOD ENOUGH for a press release by CNN, is damn good enough for the President of these United States. There's no excuse for Comey's actions. None. We mustn't lower standards that are required of our government officials, just because you hate or dislike the current elected head.