Kenosha police union gives its account of Jacob Blake shooting

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  1. 21Bronco

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    There's at least one still image from the videos that appears to show him WITH the knife before he got in the car. It only (apparently) ended up in the floor board because he was shot numerous times and dropped it there.

    He was probably armed while the cops were wrestling with him initially.
     
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    You may actually be right about what Blake 'had in his hand'... and maybe it wasn't the knife (at that specific moment). Instead, the picture that is being created is that, instead, this perp had a police officer's HEAD in his hands, because he had a cop in a HEADLOCK! So, since 'all' Blake did was fight the cops like a damned mad dog, violently resist arrest, put one officer in a head lock, and then grab a knife (or was just about to), the libs in this forum tell us Blake should not have been shot! :angel:

    In one word -- BULLSHIT! :nana:
     
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    Don't care who he is or was. Stating his record means nothing to me in this specific instance.

    He was shot when he could have been restrained by the cops. Simple as that.

    Still don't matter. Don't be a cop if you can't deal with dangerous individuals.

    And I know because he clearly doesn't have it in his hand as he walks to the video to get it. Which is what he literally told the cop.

    Be better cops. Their were at least two there. I guess I just expect too much, having had to deal with knife wielding homeless people as a mere security guard in my younger days. Such a hard life being able to carry a baton, a taser, and a gun. Crazy
     
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    sounds like they did handle the dangous individual quite well
     
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    Now, this is interesting, given your hands-on experience. Please, tell us how you would have taken Blake down if you had been the arresting officer?
     
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    So, according to your logic, if you can out-wrestle the cops, you should be able to drive away free, even when there's a warrant out for your arrest because you sexually assaulted a woman.

    The #metoo movement has been oddly silent about this.
     
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    I'm not surprised to see you think so.

    Easy. As soon as his back was turned, he would have gotten a rear naked choke with my partner cuffing his hands and ankles and then he would get tossed in the back of the car.


    No. That wasn't my argument.

    And I don't know about the poundmetoo movement. You'd have to ask them.
     
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    It matters immensely they DID try to take him down and he pulled a knife so they tried to TASE him TWICE to no effect. The pictures show something in his hand, the only thing they found was the knife. And that doesn't even matter, to any reasonable person his actions would be interpreted as going for weapon...............BAM.
     
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    they nor the public was hurt from this violent felon
     
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    Maybe you can elaborate, since it seemed to be your argument.

    Your disdain for an actual sexual assault victim is noted.
     
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    From what I have read the kids were his, that's child endangerment to add to the charges he faces on top of what the warrants were for.
     
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    Ahhhhh no choke holds anymore remember? And they believed he was armed with a knife a knife that could be used to stab the officer trying to choke. The officer had grabbed his shirt but Blake broke free of that too and reached into the car.........BAM.
     
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    Yea usually there is a knife when the police yell at you to drop one.
     
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    He fought off the restraining and pulled a knife, what do you do then?

    Why do you keep defending and making excuses this violent criminal who was threatening the police with a lethal weapon?
     
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    Actually, his record is part of the reason they were trying to apprehend him, given he had a warrant.

    They tried. Video shows a reasonable effort by the police.



    Looks like they dealt with him just fine and prevented additional crimes from being committed involving children.

    Sex offenders armed with knives shouldn’t drive off in a stolen car with kids. It’s a shame that the #metoo movement only cares about white victims from 40 years ago.
     
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    Cubed ACTUALLY said they should have used a choke hold......................amazing
     
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    They're not paid to risk their lives so that criminals may live. They're paid to risk their lives so that innocents may live.

    I would expect a police officer to run towards the sound of an active shooter.

    I would not expect an officer to piggy back a two time violent felon with a knife in his hand just to avoid using justifiable lethal force.

    Stop lying, and stop trying to spread your lie. He has it in his hand in the video. The Daily Mail was nice enough to capture a still image of the knife in his hand while he walked around the vehicle.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...-Blake-KNIFE-cops-shot-says-Wisconsin-AG.html
     
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    My argument was that the cop didn't have to pump 7 rounds into his back from a foot or two away.

    Your strawman is big and beautiful, but it's yours. Don't put words in my mouth or intimate emotions to me.

    Yeah screw that. A choke hold didn't kill Floyd and banning it is stupid.

    No, he walked around the front of the vehicle with the cop walking behind him with his gun drawn. Then the both got around to the drivers side, Jacob opened the door, and then the cop shot him.
    I don't care about him. I care about US cops being unable to do their jobs because it ensnares innocents like Elijah McCain, Tamir Rice, Breona Taylor, and the multitude of individuals who should be alive but aren't thanks to shitty cops.

    Yeah it's all well and good when the guy is a shitbird. Who needs rights or the fact that it just gives more indicators to other cops to fire away, who gives a crap.
     
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    Okay, on that point I agree. 6 arguably would have sufficed. Or 5. Whatever it took to stop the threat to the officers and the children.
     
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    From what we know at this point, this Blake guy was asking for trouble. At least according to police and a cell video. Still, shooting him 7 times was nuts. I feel so bad for the kids in the car.
    Trump attributed the incident to cops being overly stressed. Then he compared the shooting to a bad day at the golf course. Sane people are ashamed of this type of leadership.
     
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    Glad the kids didn't get driven off in a stolen car with an armed sex offender.
     
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    Asking? Begging more like it. The amount of bullets is of no matter and only four actually hit him. Yea I feel bad for the kids and hope the tack child endangerment to the charges he now faces including the ones in the outstanding warrants for which he was being arrested.
     
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    I don't believe "Lie" enforcement's narrative of the victim's snuff video.

    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all the people all of the time.”
    —Abraham Lincoln

    {(∃x)[Px * (∀y)(Ty ⊃ Fxy)] * (∃y)[Ty * (∀x)(Px ⊃ Fxy)]} * (∃y)( ∃x)[Ty * Px * ~Fxy]

    Symbols:
    Px = ‘x is a person’
    Tx = ‘x is a time’
    Fxy= ‘you can fool x at time y’
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    GASP! You would put a CHOKE HOLD on a NEGRO, in the United States?! :eekeyes:

    [​IMG]."Dude! Are you crazy? Do you want to have your city destroyed, too?!"
     
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    It seems about half the people rioting and looting are from other states. Maybe, these leftists just go from state to state or city to city to create hate. The entire nation disagree's with them outside of some extremist leftists and those who only watch CNN or MSNBC since those broadcasters won't show the truth.
     

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