Kevin, Your Policies Started The Boats, Now STOP The killing

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  1. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Pol...close_to_boat_policy_announcement_888769.html



    The Rudd government is closer to laying out changes to its strategy on asylum seeker boat arrivals as Opposition Leader Tony Abbott declared Australia was facing a national emergency.

    After moving to neutralise the carbon tax as an election issue by 'terminating' it on Tuesday, federal Labor now plans to address its biggest policy weakness.

    Prime Minister Kevin Rudd on Wednesday outlined his three-pronged approach to the vexed policy area covering action at the global, regional and national level.

    'That's the correct response to a problem which is not uniquely Australia's - it is a problem right around the world,' he told reporters in Gladstone.

    The prime minister's comments came as a search and rescue operation began off Christmas Island after an asylum seeker boat carrying 80 people issued a distress call.

    It also came a day after four people died when a boat capsized while under the escort of two navy vessels en route to Christmas Island.

    The bodies of two men and two women, all thought to be in their 20s and 30s, were recovered from the water and a further 144 people were rescued.

    Last weekend a baby boy, who was on a vessel swamped by high seas as it struggled toward the Australian coastline, was drowned.

    Mr Rudd indicated Labor was looking at the effectiveness of the United Nations Refugee Convention.

    While there's no suggestion Australia will withdraw from the convention, his comments imply the government might push for the 60-year-old agreement to be changed to reflect current movements of displaced people.

    This could make it easier for Australia to reject refugee applications for people it deems to be economic migrants and not persons fleeing persecution or war.

    Foreign Minister Bob Carr has already expressed concerns there were more economic migrants, particularly from Iran, coming to Australia on boats provided by people smugglers in Indonesia.

    Iran currently refuses to accept people who don't want to be returned.

    Mr Rudd, who recently visited Indonesia and Papua New Guinea, said on Wednesday he was looking at strengthening co-operation with nations in southeast Asia and the southwest Pacific.

    The government was also looking at reforming Australia's domestic refugee determination process.

    As part of the process, the foreign affairs department is updating advisory information provided to refugee tribunals and courts on asylum seeker source countries.

    The government wants to change a review process that overturns the overwhelming majority of failed asylum seekers.

    Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare has also called on all sides of politics to work together to 'fix this God-awful problem'.

    'This is a wretchedly difficult area and it's been poisoned by politics,' he said in Sydney.

    Mr Abbott said he was more than happy to put partisanship aside and support Labor in making the changes needed to stop the boats.

    'Bring back the parliament, let's debate this issue and let's make the changes now to stop the boats,' he said in Mackay, Queensland.

    'This is a national emergency, it's got to be addressed now.'

    Australia's border protection commander Rear Admiral David Johnston said his staff had suffered psychologically.

    'It is a dreadful feeling in the stomach when we hear that a vessel has capsized or that it's in some difficulty,' he told reporters.
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    Spin and lies aside, Rudd`s "policies" were directly responsible for our present, escalating border protection mess. To date, over 1000 deaths at sea have been caused by the same policies. Can Killer Kevin fix his own mess? Is he even aware of the truth, or has his huge ego sheltered him from the facts? :frown:
     
  2. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    The real truth is does he want to fix it? This is something that needs attention now and while on this policy I do not exactly agree with Coalition policy (but in full support as it did work). Scumbag is looking to the issue as something that is hard to solve because he simply wants to put his own spin on to the policy. So instead of putting aside the dictatorial approach to his leadership and seek support for change he will take it to the election, because he knows it is a vote winner. More will die as his dalliance is played out, but who cares. The important thing is to look like you have an answer and proffer the pretence of decency.

    I noted he was far more remorseful over the 4 dead boat people, but he could not show any for the deaths from his own program, little as that was.
     
  3. aussiefree2ride

    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Now KK is whining over the "politicising" of the people smuggling issue. I would say to him, the problem was caused by his political ineptness. The cause of so much misery, so many deaths, lays directly at his feet. We keep hearing the sob story over "negativity" of dangerously stupid policies. "Negativity", is the new airhead swear word. "Reality", is the scourge, and sworn enemy of the left.
     
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    Its finally taken these moronic politicians decades, and tens of $billions of squandered tax payers money, to finally realise that people who engage in illegal activity and pay people smugglers $8000 for a boat ticket into Australia through the backdoor, are economic refugees, and not true refugees fleeing persecution or war.

    How many 10's of thousands of these economic refugees are here in Australia lapping it up on tax payer funded pensions/ welfare and living in public housing - meanwhile 300,000 Australians are homeless and up to 8 Australian families have to live in the one house and in cars, waiting for homes YOU scum-bag politicians have provided to these economic refugees.

    You brain dead morons all deserve to be put in Hession bags and dumped overboard, because you simply don’t have a single brain between the lot of you.

    I feel angry and humiliated that my tax money pays your salaries, because none of you are worth a brass razoo.
     
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    culldav Well-Known Member

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    These politicians are simply brain dead, and our tax money are paying for these clowns who have no idea to fix a basic problem like this refugee boat situation.

    Here is my idea.

    Draft a diplomatic letter to Indonesia and tell them straight out; any boats and people arriving from Indonesia into Australia seeking refugee or asylum status will not be accepted or processed under any circumstance, and all the people coming will be returned to Indonesia regardless of their situation.

    Once these economic refugees know they have NO chance of getting accepted into Australia based on refugee or asylum status, they will simply not spend $8000 on boat tickets, and stop coming.

    How easy is that to stop the boats, and save lives at the same time?

    All we need is a politician with enough guts to stand up and start protecting Australia from economic refugees, by saying Australia will decided who comes to Australia; not an economic refugee who sneaks into Australia through the backdoor like a rat, by buying an $8000 boat ticket.
     
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    Grrrrrrr New Member

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    If rudd is the cause of this problem from last time he was pm, why do people think hes gonna have the answer the 2nd time he is pm ?
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Because they are so incredibly dumb.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aren't dumb enough by coalition standards!
     
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    I have my doubts that you have the capacity to comprehend. KRudd`s weak policies caused the present, massive escalation in people smuggling activity. Over one thousand people have died, as a direct result of Rudd`s incompetence. Can you imagine what one thousand dead people looks like? I very much doubt that you could. You don`t even show an interest in the plight of these people. Can you comprehend that this situation has the capacity to grow to even more obscene proportions? You accuse other people of not being able to walk forward, while you play little games with an issue such as this. If this disgusting mess is your idea of walking forward, count me out.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The greens have forced the governments hand on this issue, so shouldn't dammnn complain. The Malaysia solution was the best option in addressing the asylum seeker issue. Many Asylum seekers would simply be sent back to where they started, therefore making the risky trip across the seas meaningless. Will the government now do something about our plane arrivals and send them to manus island as well? It only seems fair!
     
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    Somehow I think the arrival of people in boats seeking a better life started just a bit before Kevin Rudd was born.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    The friends and relatives of the 1,100 plus, people who have died while trying to get into Australia via the back door, all know the meaning of this issue all too well. You obviously don`t, but they do.
     
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    The character of the ALP ,Another Liberal Party ,is clear as they put Refugee's into concentration camps.

    What else should be expected by Another Liberal Party ?, they are the Party of the White Australia Policy after all.

    As for Rudd ,he is Penny Wongs Handbag .As the ALP transforms itself from a Backstabbing the Workers Party to a "Community " based Fascistic formation ,as I say the ALP ,Another Liberal Party!

    Bit of a crisis for the Capitalist Class ,with Their ALP, now in Death Throws.

    The working class of Australia say's" Good riddance to bad Class compromise Rubbish".

    Little kiddies to concentration Camps and they call it the " compassionate Option"step Back from the Gobble's Solution Mr's Rudd and Abbott!

    The symbology of Refugees and Concentration camps is still a powerful thing as some of us are not school children!

    what happened to the nightmare of the Gillard days ,BTW ,she is a Pelt on My belt ,as well as Roxon, Ferguson ,and Crean!
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    What do you suggest, as an answer to this issue ?
     
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    Number 1,Stop Blowing Up their Country of Origin alongside US Imperialism ,AND THEY WILL NOT COME!

    Get rid of the false boundaries established as lines on a map called national borders for Capitalist Exploitation .Stop wars of Imperialist re-division of the Globes recourses.

    Workers of the World Uniting and putting an end to Capitalism.

    If they get to Australia ,then Process them here for medical conditions ,and then free them into the society .

    !970's and 1980's no outcry ,or stoking up of Anti-Refugee Racism to this level anyway ,are people saying that International Refugee Conventions are now out the Window .

    Basically ,if you get here you can stay ,even become citizens , just like all the other Australians ,who prior to Airline traffic were originally "Boat People " that includes the Native people's .

    Prior to their arrival ,no humans inhabited Australia as far as we Know

    Now, one point the Concentration Camp supporters of the ALP and Liberal\Nat's.

    Seem to forget is with all their ,[possible terrorist threat " or "they are taking our jobs" ,Can they show any record of Terrorism by Refugees in Australia ,or Did the "Refugee Crisis " play any role in the closure of the GM Car plant and the ending of the mining boom ,the real source of job destruction is the Government and its incompetence and the Capitalist Class they ALL serve.

    Whipping up Anti-Refugee sentiment ,is stock in trade for the Apartheid racist State of Australia.

    Ps,Concentration Camps for Refugees,can you think of a certain Racist Part that did that on a grand scale ???

    Here's a clue ,Adolf Hitler ,Joseph Gobbles had a "Refugee Solution as Mr's Rudd and Abbott are putting forward "Refugee Solutions " to that ends not a lot of difference.

    Am I saying that Rudd and Abbott are racist Scum ,YES!
     
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    Yeah ,the "negativity " of a disintegrating budget ,from $22bn in may as Won and Swan assured us all done ,"sorry bout the mistake" and now the truth ,$55bn and getting larger by the day .

    I remember some waffle in the Dark Feminist Rat bag days ,about a "SURPLUS".?

    That went all NEGATIVE in a big way.

    Does being a 3rd Wave feminist Lesbian Fascist like Wong ,stop you from adding up properly .?

    LGBT?

    are all GL retarded as far as numbers go or is Wong just well WRONG!

    We are told how nice and progressive the Gay and Lesbian set are ,Newsflash, Wong Knifed Gillard ,and isn't opposing the Attack on refugee's. I fact she leads the charge alongside ,her political Handbag Rudd!

    And who will be the next ,'Leader" ,my money Ms Wong as she bigger balls then A phony Albanese.
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    Well then. Errrm, Your policies would certainly have a profound effect. I wonder how well it would work, going back to the stone age and trying all over again. Perhaps human nature would change?
     

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