Killing of American contractor crossed line for Trump, source says

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the way Trump is talking, the laying on of hands he has had from the Christian Right, I think they are after their Armageddon and as this article says the intent was to stop any move for peace

    https://thegrayzone.com/2020/01/06/soleimani-peace-mission-assassinated-trump-lie-imminent-attacks/
     
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  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :applause:
     
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    Dang there is a lot of panty wetting over this. He has been a target since 2007. Apparently it was fine when Obama did it.
     
  4. HumbledPi

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    What do you mean exactly, are you suggesting that Soleimani was "Obama's homie"? That's supremely laughable. You've provided some hard core fake news, now provide the proof if you can, of your lie. President Obama was smart, Trump is stupid, the dullest tool in the shed. Iran was handled through diplomacy, something that Trump is incapable of.
     
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    Soleimani was a target since W Bush, and Obama, both had chance to kill him, they didn't for fear of end outcome. Soleimani will just be replace by another person, and do the same, but the outcome put more America and its interest in danger, that's why both Bush/Obama didn't go through with it.
     
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    A terrorist attack on a U.S. base in Kenya killed an American soldier and two American contractors. Are we reinforcing the base and planning a retaliatory attack?
     
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    The contractor killing is likely real - what the OP suggests is that the " Soleimani did it" narrative is "fake intelligence" which then became fake news.

    And since when do we not use false flags and other nefarious tactics to justify military escalation. That is the modus Operandi .

    Get with the program fella - can't have a thriving military industrial complex without an enemy - A Trillion a year can buy a lot of beer - and a whole lot of influence - which includes the State Sponsored creation and dissemination of Propaganda.

    Obama opened that door in 2013 -and that door has been used -- not that it wasn't happening prior but, it wasn't State Sponsored.

    There is a reason why that door is supposed to be shut -

    Just our intelligence agency budget alone is 80 Billion - add in "dark projects" and it is 130 Billion - much of which goes to defense contractors.

    That is double the entire federal revenue of Mexico - a nation 11th in the world in terms of purchasing power - population 130 million.

    The CIA was founded after the war in 1947 -

    In 1952 Congress appropriated 100 million for "Covert action" -

    https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...09-The Agency and the Hill_Part2-Chapter6.pdf

    (P165)

    So they didn't spend any of that money - but proposed 4.3 million handling refugee Russians.

    My how times have changed - this Agency - and its offspring "homeland Security" - is now a 130 Billion/year entity.

    because apparently our military is not doing a good enough job keeping us secure - look at the number of armies that have attacked the homeland since pearl harbor.
     
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  8. Lil Mike

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    OK so you think this is a "false flag."

    OK
     
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    An Embassy, however secular, is akin to a sacred religious site.The Iranians stormed our Embassy in Iraq and set it afire. That, along with his history of being responsible for the deaths and maiming of thousands of American soldiers who were not even at war with Iran, earned Suleiman and the six others, their deaths.
     
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    First off, they wouldn't kill the guy selling them weapons. And second, they wouldn't send a General to purchase weapons.
     
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    You misread my post -
     
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    Wow, you could not get it any MORE backwards, astounding. I can only shake my head.
     
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    Actually, the contractor could have been just about anything from an electrician to a firearms instructor to an expert in precision artillery, or a computer programmer, or a communications expert. The point is, he was an American ... an American who was supporting the mission our troops are carrying out. In the case of civilians who are killed, the U.S. does not release their names like they do with military members. Their deaths may be reported to the media by the companies they work for or by their families, or they may be kept private. There is nothing nefarious about this. This is the usual practice.
     
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    You are raining on the conspiracy theory, with logic and facts.
     
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    Well unlike Obama Trump doesn't keep moving the line... there's the line, you cross it... the line is crossed... he doesn't keep drawing a new one like the Obama Administration
     
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    why Trump really did it

     
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    yeah, ask Kim in North Korea, who has crossed Trump's line many times

    Trump has drawn many red lines and then done nothing... some times the other side calls your bluffs
     
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    No he didn't... Trump have now withdrawn form North Korean negotiations until Jong Un meets conditions... line drawn

    btw just as well Obama never even tried to negotiate with KJU... who knows how much money he would have given him
     
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    My lie? Then debunk this.
    https://www.independentsentinel.com...in-2015-of-an-israeli-plan-to-kill-soleimani/

    Back in May Trump was complaining about Kerry giving Iran advice.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...d-for-talking-to-tehran-amid-rising-tensions/
    Was he advising Iran where to attack?
     
  20. HumbledPi

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    If that was the case, there would be no reason to protect his identity.
     
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    No but the killing of a merc, is not any reason for retaliation. He is not fighting for our country, but for some corporation to be safer while they make billions.
     
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    So just to be clear, you are saying that the killing of US citizens overseas who are not part of the military is none of the US government's business?
     
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    No, I am saying killing a soldier for hire does not warrant the killing of an Iranian general.
     
  24. Lil Mike

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    How do you know he was a soldier for hire? I've not seen that reported anywhere.
     
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    He is being referred to as a contractor, which is the name our soldiers give mercs. Unless you think he was the CEO of Halioburton or Raytheon. They won't refer to him as a merc but that is who guards delivery supplies for the defense contractors. Filipinos and Indonesians drive the trucks and clean and cook the food. A lot of the base security is provided by Urgandians under contract to SOC-SMG

    Just go down to the VFW and ask.
     
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